Silver? Everyone knows my opinion on precious metals (they stink), so I would dump it all now at this price, but PLEASE don't flame me. I know I am in the minority in this forum. I was fortunate to get to go to Europe in 2000, and it cost me next to nothing (a little over $2K for 2 1/2 weeks) because the dollar was so strong. Now it is so weak. I think it will come back. When the euro came out, it was meant to be about equivalent to US$1, so it has a long road to recovery.
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There is no question in my mind that we are now in the midst of a selling opportunity for silver. I have seen several price spikes like this over the past 20+ years and each time it was wise to sell into the rising market. I don't see any reason why it will be different this time.
I agree with dollardude. There were TONS of greedy speculators who bought in late and were holding out for $50.00 an ounce and lost their butts. Get in, get out, take no prisoners...that's MY motto.
I don't have a crystal ball so I don't know if silver will go higher or not. I know that I don't know!
But I am smart enough not to sell into a rising market. Geez that reminds me of the guys who sold the Dow at 4,000 back in 1995, right before the greatest bull run ever!
I remember one idiot was shorting at Dow 6,000, because it "had to" be overpriced!
I'll keep an eye on silver and sell when the tide turns. No different than anything else. As long as I get $4.50 I'm OK, so no need to be concerned whether it's $5, $6, or $7.
The thing to be concerned with today is where to go with the money next, because we all know these markets may be good or bad for extended time periods.
Silver is going to run and run hard over the next several years. Very few will have the stamina to hang in there though....hence very few will reap any rewards. No one said it was going to be easy to make money. So what if it has gone up in the past and then crashed.
As usual DD is preachin his anti-anything but real estate and CD's approach to investing. It's getting old hearing the same old story. Silver will kick the hell out of RE and the DOW over the next few years. I too sold out of the Dow in 1997 at 7500. Rather than believing the "trend" I sold based on a "stupid number" that appeared to be "high." Same mistake many are now making on gold and silver. Yup, $400 and $6 is too high, better get out. I'm staying the course on PM's and coins. This is the big one Alice.
I added several thousand ounces to my hoard about 3 weeks ago, just had a feeling.
I do think we will see a dip in late Jan and Feb and I intend to add a few thousand more ounces around then as well.
I love the folks who are bailing out early, keeps the prices near spot for me.
"Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose." John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
This is just all to weird! We must be in some sort of adjustment period just before the World decides which way to go. I personally am not a paper person but all the experts say the DOW will go to 12,000 within a year and I believe them. Not because most of these companies are not already over priced but because the Baby-boomers want one more chance to grab at the brass ring in their IRA’s. If they continue pouring money in this market it can only go up, but there will be Hell to pay when they decide to go to income producing investments. When interest rates get back to around 6% look out! As far as the metals go I think they will become a permanent part of many investors holdings. I have several friends that are perfect profiles for a mid fifties upper management boomers. All of them have bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of metals the last couple of years, “ As Insurance”. They will not sell no matter where the price goes. This economy acts like an inflationary economy, but the government says we have none. Real-estate, Stocks, metals, collectables all are experiencing price increases. Several months ago I was buying American Eagles to build several sets, all the time I was buying I was thinking to myself this is dumb, why I am doing this. Most of the pieces I bought were in the $7.10 to $8.00 range, Kitco has these at $8.50 for common dates today. The only thing that I can figure out is that the Boomer group knows something is wrong here so they are putting some money into the metals market as a hedge, and since that market is very thin compared to the stock market it keep on moving up. As far as a big drop in the metals, I don’t think that is possible for anything but a short term profit taking swing. I think people are starting to buy for a long term hold and will use every dip to buy more.
I think the entire rise in PM, Dow, and Energy is due to the falling dollar. I read somewhere that the Dow is flat in terms of the Euro. Without doing formal research, if the dollar has fallen 20% to 0.8, then that would clearly make a Dow 10,000 into Dow 8,000 for Euro-based investors.
Remember that years ago OPEC agreed that oil would be no more than $28/barrel? Why is $32-33 OK now? My calculator says that todays $32 is yesterday's $26.
Fishcooker, This is a very good point. We all tend to forget that these are World markets not U.S. markets and many people in the World are buying with expensive money. For some reason I just can't get this formula in this dyslecksic&%$#%$ brain of mine.
I know this is a simple question, but I have no idea how to answer it. Where would I go to sell my silver coins, I have, probably 3 or 4 lbs of foreign silver coins sitting around? Anyone know a place in Georgia? Thanks as always for the great information.
I've never seen the Spot Charts step like they did the last few days. I was wondering when we would see a little profit taking. Hold on. Let the burned out sell us their inventory. I'll buy all I can afford without any major lifestyle changes on a fixed income. I'll buy until $12.00. Then I have to make adjustments. We'll see who was right in a year or two.
Travis
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<< <i>but all the experts say the DOW will go to 12,000 within a year and I believe them. >>
Any time ALL the "experts" agree on anything, it's time to run - not walk - in the opposite direction. We are close to that in precious metals. The bugs are coming out of the woodwork in droves.
Hell, how good can any investment be that is hawked by Art Bell?
I certainly don't see "ALL" the experts touting gold/silver - in fact, far from it.
Of course, all the usual "goldbugs" are touting gold as they alwyas do. Maybe they are just doing it a bit louder now.
But when I watch financial stuff on TV (like CNBC, etc.), they still spend almost all of their time talking about stocks, promoting stocks, salivating over stocks, etc. Once in a great while they'll mention metals. Yesterday they had an interesting fellow on (forget his name) who was talking about precious metals. Just as he was about to get to the good part, the commentator stepped in and said "sorry we're out of time" and cut him off to go to a commercial. How rude !
Remember talking about this $6 break through with a local dealer and buying a roll of 2003 ASE'S for around $185. Still have the roll, never even went through them. Anyone else do any buying in Dec. 03, and still possess the purchase?
<< <i>Remember talking about this $6 break through with a local dealer and buying a roll of 2003 ASE'S for around $185. Still have the roll, never even went through them. Anyone else do any buying in Dec. 03, and still possess the purchase? >>
Yep. Au and Ag
Still stand by my above prediction
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<< <i>Silver is going to run and run hard over the next several years. Very few will have the stamina to hang in there though....hence very few will reap any rewards. No one said it was going to be easy to make money. So what if it has gone up in the past and then crashed.
As usual DD is preachin his anti-anything but real estate and CD's approach to investing. It's getting old hearing the same old story. Silver will kick the hell out of RE and the DOW over the next few years. I too sold out of the Dow in 1997 at 7500. Rather than believing the "trend" I sold based on a "stupid number" that appeared to be "high." Same mistake many are now making on gold and silver. Yup, $400 and $6 is too high, better get out. I'm staying the course on PM's and coins. This is the big one Alice.
roadrunner >>
RR posting in this thread was made 12/30/2003 & talk about hitting the nail on the head with that one....
and what ever happened to dollardude ... talk about getting it completely wrong...here was his comment: "Silver? Everyone knows my opinion on precious metals (they stink), so I would dump it all now at this price"
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<< <i>Remember talking about this $6 break through with a local dealer and buying a roll of 2003 ASE'S for around $185. Still have the roll, never even went through them. Anyone else do any buying in Dec. 03, and still possess the purchase? >>
<< <i>Silver is going to run and run hard over the next several years. Very few will have the stamina to hang in there though....hence very few will reap any rewards. No one said it was going to be easy to make money. So what if it has gone up in the past and then crashed.
As usual DD is preachin his anti-anything but real estate and CD's approach to investing. It's getting old hearing the same old story. Silver will kick the hell out of RE and the DOW over the next few years. I too sold out of the Dow in 1997 at 7500. Rather than believing the "trend" I sold based on a "stupid number" that appeared to be "high." Same mistake many are now making on gold and silver. Yup, $400 and $6 is too high, better get out. I'm staying the course on PM's and coins. This is the big one Alice.
I follow the commodities markets very close and tight. I also have access to some very smart and savvy people. I''m convinced that by Election Day 2012, silver will be around $30. an ounce and gold will be about $1850.
Platinum depends on how the auto industry, worldwide, does....reflective of the need for catalytic converters needed.
Brings back such fond memories debating with Dollardude and company. I miss the wisdom or our founding fathers....no not Washington and Jefferson...but Goldsaint and Deadhorse.
I do not often agree with Roadrunner, but I have to acknowledge the accuracy of his prediction here!
I have a buddy who has his entire life savings in PMs. His auto mechanic offered to buy 50oz of Ag from him a few weeks ago. Called him on a Tuesday, said he'd take possession on Saturday, but wanted the Tuesday price. My friend said "No way." By the end of the week, Silver was up to 19-something. The mechanic backed out because it was too expensive. Oopsie!
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But I am smart enough not to sell into a rising market. Geez that reminds me of the guys who sold the Dow at 4,000 back in 1995, right before the greatest bull run ever!
I remember one idiot was shorting at Dow 6,000, because it "had to" be overpriced!
I'll keep an eye on silver and sell when the tide turns. No different than anything else. As long as I get $4.50 I'm OK, so no need to be concerned whether it's $5, $6, or $7.
The thing to be concerned with today is where to go with the money next, because we all know these markets may be good or bad for extended time periods.
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Always looking for nice type coins
my local dealer
As usual DD is preachin his anti-anything but real estate and CD's approach to investing. It's getting old hearing the same old story.
Silver will kick the hell out of RE and the DOW over the next few years. I too sold out of the Dow in 1997 at 7500. Rather than believing the "trend" I sold based on a "stupid number" that appeared to be "high." Same mistake many are now making on gold and silver. Yup, $400 and $6 is too high, better get out. I'm staying the course on PM's and coins. This is the big one Alice.
roadrunner
I do think we will see a dip in late Jan and Feb and I intend to add a few thousand more ounces around then as well.
I love the folks who are bailing out early, keeps the prices near spot for me.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
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I think the entire rise in PM, Dow, and Energy is due to the falling dollar. I read somewhere that the Dow is flat in terms of the Euro. Without doing formal research, if the dollar has fallen 20% to 0.8, then that would clearly make a Dow 10,000 into Dow 8,000 for Euro-based investors.
Remember that years ago OPEC agreed that oil would be no more than $28/barrel? Why is $32-33 OK now? My calculator says that todays $32 is yesterday's $26.
Where would I go to sell my silver coins, I have, probably 3 or 4 lbs of foreign silver coins sitting around?
Anyone know a place in Georgia?
Thanks as always for the great information.
<< <i>Silver will surpass $50 >>
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<< <i>but all the experts say the DOW will go to 12,000 within a year and I believe them. >>
Any time ALL the "experts" agree on anything, it's time to run - not walk - in the opposite direction. We are close to that in precious metals. The bugs are coming out of the woodwork in droves.
Hell, how good can any investment be that is hawked by Art Bell?
Russ, NCNE
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"Sou Mangueira......."
Of course, all the usual "goldbugs" are touting gold as they alwyas do.
Maybe they are just doing it a bit louder now.
But when I watch financial stuff on TV (like CNBC, etc.), they still spend almost
all of their time talking about stocks, promoting stocks, salivating over stocks, etc.
Once in a great while they'll mention metals. Yesterday they had an interesting
fellow on (forget his name) who was talking about precious metals. Just as he
was about to get to the good part, the commentator stepped in and said
"sorry we're out of time" and cut him off to go to a commercial. How rude !
Just enjoy the ride my friends. The precious metals prices have a mind of their own.
It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman and in a wide house. - Proverbs 25:24
and buying a roll of 2003 ASE'S for around $185.
Still have the roll, never even went through them.
Anyone else do any buying in Dec. 03, and still possess the purchase?
<< <i>Remember talking about this $6 break through with a local dealer
and buying a roll of 2003 ASE'S for around $185.
Still have the roll, never even went through them.
Anyone else do any buying in Dec. 03, and still possess the purchase? >>
Yep. Au and Ag
Still stand by my above prediction
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It's the hoarder in me.............can't let go of my stuff
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It's full of crow and gems.
<< <i>Silver is going to run and run hard over the next several years. Very few will have the stamina to hang in there though....hence very few will reap any rewards. No one said it was going to be easy to make money. So what if it has gone up in the past and then crashed.
As usual DD is preachin his anti-anything but real estate and CD's approach to investing. It's getting old hearing the same old story.
Silver will kick the hell out of RE and the DOW over the next few years. I too sold out of the Dow in 1997 at 7500. Rather than believing the "trend" I sold based on a "stupid number" that appeared to be "high." Same mistake many are now making on gold and silver. Yup, $400 and $6 is too high, better get out. I'm staying the course on PM's and coins. This is the big one Alice.
roadrunner >>
RR posting in this thread was made 12/30/2003 & talk about hitting the nail on the head with that one....
and what ever happened to dollardude ... talk about getting it completely wrong...here was his comment: "Silver? Everyone knows my opinion on precious metals (they stink), so I would dump it all now at this price"
<< <i>
<< <i>Remember talking about this $6 break through with a local dealer
and buying a roll of 2003 ASE'S for around $185.
Still have the roll, never even went through them.
Anyone else do any buying in Dec. 03, and still possess the purchase? >>
Yep. Au and Ag
Still stand by my above prediction >>
What was your prediction?
<< <i>Silver is going to run and run hard over the next several years. Very few will have the stamina to hang in there though....hence very few will reap any rewards. No one said it was going to be easy to make money. So what if it has gone up in the past and then crashed.
As usual DD is preachin his anti-anything but real estate and CD's approach to investing. It's getting old hearing the same old story.
Silver will kick the hell out of RE and the DOW over the next few years. I too sold out of the Dow in 1997 at 7500. Rather than believing the "trend" I sold based on a "stupid number" that appeared to be "high." Same mistake many are now making on gold and silver. Yup, $400 and $6 is too high, better get out. I'm staying the course on PM's and coins. This is the big one Alice.
roadrunner >>
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Platinum depends on how the auto industry, worldwide, does....reflective of the need for catalytic converters needed.
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Friday December 19, 2003 6:41 PM
Gold $900+
Silver $18.00+
dow 6800
Nasdaq 900
Real estate bubble to pop
Insane was I?
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<< <i>Posted here by yours truly:
Friday December 19, 2003 6:41 PM
Gold $900+
Silver $18.00+
dow 6800
Nasdaq 900
Real estate bubble to pop
Insane was I?
>>
Holy cow what a call....whatcha thinking now...??
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>Were did all the doom and gloom predictors go? >>
To the D&G Forum, aka PM Forum.
I have a buddy who has his entire life savings in PMs. His auto mechanic offered to buy 50oz of Ag from him a few weeks ago. Called him on a Tuesday, said he'd take possession on Saturday, but wanted the Tuesday price. My friend said "No way." By the end of the week, Silver was up to 19-something. The mechanic backed out because it was too expensive. Oopsie!
That was pretty good.
<< <i>Silver will surpass $50. It will leave that figure in the dust. >>
And it looks to be heading that direction.
SportsModerator1, where did you purchase your crystal ball?
Above prediction made on Wednesday December 31, 2003.
<< <i>SportsModerator1, where did you purchase your crystal ball? >>
You can buy them on eBay.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
I know that, but I want the exact model SportsModerator1 possesses.