My box to PCGS was Stolen...3 Boxes showed up Received without contents,Update 2nd Claim denied

1tommy · November 19, 2012 8:10AM

UPDATE: Three packages have turned up at pcgs torn opened and empty of contents. My package was so well taped around it that it was never found and I consider now to be stolen. Claim will be filed on wensday................................................................................................................... Sent in two coins that are priceless to me, priority mail insured tracking number. I have Never had a problem and it always has gotten there in 2 days, My tracking shows it left anaheim at 430 am on friday, its less than 20 miles to newport beach. This is where the trail ends as newport never scanned the package. I now know that sick feeling and unrest. These two coins I have searched 1 for over a year and the other 6 months, both might have been top pops. I'm sick...........................There is nothing pcgs can do and the newport clerk said he would try to call me before he leaves work tonight. Lesson learned as I should have overnighted heavyly insured with signature required..............

I Believe this thread should be lock at the top pcgs should warn there customers there is a problem. Packages missing and others showed up EMPTY? How many others before a warning is issued?

JJM · November 19, 2012 8:13AM

rut ro !......ugh

LanceNewmanOCC · November 19, 2012 8:14AM

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makes my stomach turn just thinking about it
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LindeDad · November 19, 2012 8:14AM

Probably stuck in one of the roller carts don't give up yet. I once had a package show up 53 days after mailing.

TomB · November 19, 2012 8:24AM

I realize it is disheartening, but the trail is only cold as of Friday so there is still a good possibility it shows up shortly.

MICHAELDIXON · November 19, 2012 8:26AM

I wouldn't be worried - yet. I mailed a package with delivery confirmation to Baltimore and I live 32 miles away. It took 4 days to get there!!!! But...it finally got there.

Goldbully · November 19, 2012 8:51AM

Did you opt for signature confirmation?
I'm sure they will get your package to Newport Beach by tomorrow.
2 day delivery is true 95% of the time....every now and then it takes 3 or 4.

MsMorrisine · November 19, 2012 8:51AM

I've had packages take side trips.

they are better traveled nowadays than I am.

19Lyds · November 19, 2012 9:00AM

The Last TIME, I sent something to PCGS with Priority Mail, I received reminders that only Registered Mail or Over Night Insured Express was acceptable for PCGS Submissions.

Good Luck! The package is probably just sitting somewhere until they can find their reminder notices.

As for your "heavily insured" comment..............you'll just be wasting money since the Post Office only pays off on actual value........not perceived value.

Again.......Good Luck!

derryb · November 19, 2012 9:08AM

I believe your worry is premature, even with priority mail. Anything priceless should go registered.

LindeDad · November 19, 2012 9:10AM

I have sent quit a few lower value modern submissions Priority with Signature service and never had any flack from PCGS.
They are not on the hook until it gets to them and heck they are using Priority service rather than registered anymore to send my stuff back.

grote15 · November 19, 2012 9:10AM

I would not worry yet. Mail has been slower than usual lately, and I'm sure it will turn up.

grote15 · November 19, 2012 9:11AM

The Last TIME, I sent something to PCGS with Priority Mail, I received reminders that only Registered Mail or Over Night Insured Express was acceptable for PCGS Submissions.

Can you tell me how long ago that was? I have always sent my coins in via insured priority mail and have a sub just about ready to go and wondering if i should upgrade to Express Mail.

19Lyds · November 19, 2012 9:19AM

<< <i>I have sent quit a few lower value modern submissions Priority with Signature service and never had any flack from PCGS.
They are not on the hook until it gets to them and heck they are using Priority service rather than registered anymore to send my stuff back.

>>

I understand that. I'm simply related what I was told and what's printed on EVERY Submission form in the "Instructions" area.

However, you're certainly free to send your submissions anyway you'd prefer.

1tommy · November 19, 2012 9:20AM

Thanks everyone for the good thoughts. No I did not send it signature required(my mistake) I have sent in over 15 orders in the past 2 years always sent priority insured signature and have never received a notice they do not accept. What worries me it was on its way to newport from anaheim at 430 am friday its had a whole weekend to get there and today. I understand the insurance and only insured for a 1000 even tho I had them insured for 4 grand coming back (based on the perceived value) Another sleepless night and will call newport in the morning and really hope your all right and this is just another silly I panicked thread.........Enjoy

mariner67 · November 19, 2012 9:25AM

Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Hope for the best.

djm · November 19, 2012 9:28AM

I have the same issue with a package from the mint. It was at the main Post Office Friday Morning and it hasn't made it to the satelite Post Office where I have my P.O Box. We are only talking about a few miles ( a long walk). I went to pick the package up this morning and the clerk said not to believe the scans a a large majority of them are fake.

stman · November 19, 2012 9:28AM

Something to think of in the future if you don't already know this........ Express mail insurance I think at a certain price point is much cheaper than Priority insurance.

droopyd · November 19, 2012 9:30AM

I've got 2 boxes that were sent to me on Friday. One shows out for delivery today, the other - sent at the same time by the same person - still shows as being at the outbound sort facility.

Give it at least a couple of days before freaking out.

Updated: Both of my packages were delivered today.

mkman123 · November 19, 2012 9:42AM

just wait, don't worry it will show up

Constantine · November 19, 2012 9:45AM

I sympathize with you, and have been there myself. BUT it is waaaaaay too early to get terribly upset as in the grand scheme of things, it hasn't been that long at all. I have a good feeling it will work out for you and show up.

BryceM · November 19, 2012 9:47AM

Only three suggestions, none of which will be of any actual help this time around:

1) Registered
2) Registered
3) Registered

That said, the odds are something like 99:1 that it will show up.

smokincoin · November 19, 2012 9:49AM

<< <i>Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Hope for the best. >>

Me too!

epcjimi1 · November 19, 2012 10:09AM

Mis-routed to another PO by mistake? I recall a recent thread where this happened, all turned out well in the end. Hang in there, push Anaheim PO HARD to find it.

georgiacop50 · November 19, 2012 10:28AM

Your worry is likely premature. The odds are great that it will show up.

lcoopie · November 19, 2012 10:30AM

priceless.....
next thought...
registered mail

Staircoins · November 19, 2012 10:48AM

Priceless coins, and PCGS is less than 20 miles away?

Maybe in-person delivery is worth considering as well.

(Good luck. Hopefully your package will turn up soon!)

abitofthisabitofthat · November 19, 2012 10:57AM

I have had a submission never scanned as delivered by USPS, but it showed up in PCGS submission tracking a few days later. I would not worry too much yet.

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dtkk49a · November 19, 2012 11:18AM

I was mailed a Priority mail package with delivery confirmation on 10/29 and received it today !!

lkeigwin · November 19, 2012 11:27AM

I'll bet it shows up. Give it more time.
Lance.

pitboss · November 19, 2012 11:28AM

Think positive Tom, I am sure it probably is in a pile at PCGS and has not been gotten to yet.
Good luck guy!

Buzzybest · November 19, 2012 11:38AM

I guess I'll start sending my Christmas cards out tomorrow!

DIMEMAN · November 19, 2012 11:49AM

Sure hope it shows up Tommy.

Remember like someone else already mentioned..........Registered......ALWAYS!!!!!

Rampage · November 19, 2012 12:03PM

You are a bit over anxious. Today is just Monday. I bet it will show up tomorrow (Tuesday).

OPA · November 19, 2012 12:13PM

<< <i>The Last TIME, I sent something to PCGS with Priority Mail, I received reminders that only Registered Mail or Over Night Insured Express was acceptable for PCGS Submissions.

Good Luck! The package is probably just sitting somewhere until they can find their reminder notices.

As for your "heavily insured" comment..............you'll just be wasting money since the Post Office only pays off on actual value........not perceived value.

Again.......Good Luck! >>

Really?

What's printed on the submission form is a recommendation and it's been like that forever. Even Pcgs doesn't use Registered Mail for most returned submissions. I, myself have used regular mail w/o insurance or sig. conf. on inexpensive stuff ( valued at $200 or less) w/o PCGS ever getting involved. Your case is unique and I find it hard to believe. PCGS is not liable or responsible for any coin until it's in their possession, so why should they even get involved in how it's mailed to them? Of course, if a parcel arrives damages, they may recommend that the sender take a training course on how to properly mail coins through the mail.

VanHalen · November 19, 2012 12:33PM

I had an eBay package coming to me that was 150 miles away last Thursday (per tracking) and was routed 500 miles the opposite direction on Friday! I got it today! USPS is swamped this time of year and more mistakes happen.

Hang tough. It should be fine.

cmerlo1 · November 19, 2012 12:52PM

Hang in there- it'll show up.

tbarreca · November 19, 2012 12:55PM

I'm cheering for you, and figure that there's a high probability everybody else is right, and the coin will show up. Even Nate Silver would bet that way!

GrumpyEd · November 19, 2012 2:23PM

Way too early to worry, it will show up.
I always use registered mail for submissions, it's slow but I worry less.

Good Luck!!!! Don't worry yet!!!

Justacommeman · November 19, 2012 2:29PM

I'm surprised no one has suggested using Registered Mail yet...............MJ

Fingers crossed.

Easycoinsales · November 19, 2012 2:44PM

For some reason always use registered mail on anything over 1000.

Best of luck Tommy!!!

Thanks for all ya have done for me bud. Im sure something will get figured out here

Shannon

MikeInFL · November 19, 2012 3:09PM

Here's hoping your package shows up safe & sound!

1tommy · November 19, 2012 9:16PM

Current Track & Confirm e-mail information provided by the U.S. Postal Service.

Shipment Activity Location Date & Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Depart USPS Sort ANAHEIM CA 92899 11/16/12 4:30am
Facility

Processed through USPS ANAHEIM CA 92899 11/16/12 12:54am
Sort Facility

Depart USPS Sort CHAMPAIGN IL 61821 11/15/12
Facility

Processed through USPS CHAMPAIGN IL 61821 11/15/12 12:45am
Sort Facility

Processed at USPS CHAMPAIGN IL 61821 11/14/12 10:40pm
Origin Sort Facility

Dispatched to Sort NORMAL IL 61761 11/14/12 5:03pm
Facility

Acceptance NORMAL IL 61761 11/14/12 8:57am Well thanks everyone and guess I might need to call the anaheim office and see where it went after it left there friday and if it went in the right truck to newport beach, No word from them last night. And with the holidays approaching sure hope they find it soon. Pcgs does log in ALL packages by tracking number and my last call to them last night there was no package........Enjoy

Billet7 · November 20, 2012 12:29AM

There's a place called "Normal?" Who knew it would be in Illinois?...random...

In Utah there's a place called Browse...I stopped there once just to look around a bit.

Hope you find your package, sorry for the troubles.

ricko · November 20, 2012 12:48AM

These situations leave a terrible feeling of hopelessness....That said, the relief you will feel when it does show up will compensate. Good luck, Cheers, RickO

AUandAG · November 20, 2012 1:12AM

When I first read this thread, I suspected it went to Vegas on a re-route, but Illinois??

LOL

bob

coinpictures · November 20, 2012 1:15AM

Normal, IL... Bloomington's retarded little brother.

(I keed, I keed...)

mrpotatoheadd · November 20, 2012 1:22AM

Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong.

Lakesammman · November 20, 2012 1:23AM

In Utah there's a place called Browse...I stopped there once just to look around a bit.

USPS doesn't allow claims for what - 30 days?? They realize things get misplaced now and then. Hang in there.....

BigA · November 20, 2012 1:27AM

<< <i>When I first read this thread, I suspected it went to Vegas on a re-route, but Illinois??

LOL

bob

>>

I think it started it's journey in Illinois on the 14th....got to CA on the 16th and there is where the trip was interrupted

My box to PCGS was Stolen...3 Boxes showed up Received without contents,Update 2nd Claim denied

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