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(scans posted!) Four months...Deep pockets...A little "luck"...and alot of determination!

Thats what it took me to finish a complete 15 card T206 "basic backs" set. This set represents 1 of each of the 15 tobacco brands that distributed these cards back in 1909-1911. Obviously missing from the set is the Cobb back, and its not here for 2 reasons. First, I do not consider it even a part of the T206 series as it was not printed, or distibuted like the other 15 brands. Also, its the only brand to feature just 1 subject. Lastly, 12 of the 14 known specimens have a glossy finish on the front of the card....none of the other T206's display this unique characteristic. The other reason its not included is, quite frankly, I have no desire to spend $25,000+ on a baseball card. My threshhold so far on a single card is $2500 for the Drum in this collection. Thats about as high as im currently willing to go, but things may change. Enjoy!

P.S.- About an hour before making this thread, I had negotiated on a wonderful Uzit back to upgrade the dreadful one you see here. I wont have it in hand for another couple of weeks though.

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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    Those're nice! You should crop 'em and make 'em all the same size. Makes for nicer viewing. Well done, though!

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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>Those're nice! You should crop 'em and make 'em all the same size. Makes for nicer viewing. Well done, though! >>




    You interested in a job? I can take sharp, up close photos of each card if you have the smarts to crop them and put them all in a line, from rarest to most common. Would look GREAT in my sigline! Let me know.
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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    With the collection you've been putting together, it's time to invest the $50 in a CCD scanner. It'll be well worth it.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    I have a scanner, but the only way I know how to scan to my computer is to "paint". Then I have no idea how to enlarge the images or crop them from there. Im very computer stupid!
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    elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,013


    << <i>Those're nice! You should crop 'em and make 'em all the same size. Makes for nicer viewing. Well done, though! >>



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    Don't know if you can stuff all 15 into a CU compliant sigline and retain enough detail to matter?

    Snorto~
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    Very nice!!! They much look great all together in person... image

    I've actually thought about doing that set, but I try to stick with my basketball, but thats something to definetly look into in the future.
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    Beck6Beck6 Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭
    Very nice collection. Now you can work on the master list: In order of toughest to find

    1. Ty Cobb - Factory 33 - District 4 - State NC **
    2. Old Mill (Brown) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    3. Broad Leaf - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    4. Lenox (Brown) - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    5. Drum - Series 350- Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    6. Uzit - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    7. Hindu (Red) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
    8. Piedmont - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
    9. Blank Back
    10. Lenox (Black) - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    11. Broad Leaf - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    12. Carolina Brights - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    13. Sovereign - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    14. Hindu (Brown) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
    15. American Beauty - Series 460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
    16. Cycle - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    17. Tolstoi - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    18. El Principe De Gales - Factory 17 - District 2 - State VA
    19. American Beauty (no Frame) - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    20. American Beauty (with Frame) - Series 350- Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    21. Cycle - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    22. Old Mill (Southern League) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    23. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    24. Old Mill (Black) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    25. Sovereign - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    26. Sweet Caporal (Overprint) - Series 150 - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
    27. Sweet Caporal (Overprint) - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
    28. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
    29. Sovereign - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    30. Polar Bear - Factory 6 - District 1 - State OH
    31. Sweet Caporal - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    32. Sweet Caporal - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    33. Piedmont - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    34. Sweet Caporal - Series 150 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    35. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    36. Piedmont - Series 350-460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    37. Sweet Caporal - Series 350 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    38. Piedmont - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    Registry Sets:
    T222's PSA 1 or better
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>Very nice collection. Now you can work on the master list: In order of toughest to find

    1. Ty Cobb - Factory 33 - District 4 - State NC ** Will never buy this!
    2. Old Mill (Brown) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Someday
    3. Broad Leaf - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Already saving up (figuring around $4,000)
    4. Lenox (Brown) - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY Someday
    5. Drum - Series 350- Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    6. Uzit - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY Got it
    7. Hindu (Red) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY Real soon...image
    8. Piedmont - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC Got 2 of these
    9. Blank Back Will never buy this either!
    10. Lenox (Black) - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY Got it
    11. Broad Leaf - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    12. Carolina Brights - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    13. Sovereign - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got 2 of these
    14. Hindu (Brown) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY Got it
    15. American Beauty - Series 460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC Got it
    16. Cycle - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    17. Tolstoi - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY Got it
    18. El Principe De Gales - Factory 17 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    19. American Beauty (no Frame) - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    20. American Beauty (with Frame) - Series 350- Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    21. Cycle - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    22. Old Mill (Southern League) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    23. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    24. Old Mill (Black) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    25. Sovereign - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Got it
    26. Sweet Caporal (Overprint) - Series 150 - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY Need it
    27. Sweet Caporal (Overprint) - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC Got it
    28. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC Need it???
    29. Sovereign - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Need it
    30. Polar Bear - Factory 6 - District 1 - State OH Got it
    31. Sweet Caporal - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    32. Sweet Caporal - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA Havent really paid close enough
    33. Piedmont - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA attention to these easy ones just yet!
    34. Sweet Caporal - Series 150 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    35. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    36. Piedmont - Series 350-460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
    37. Sweet Caporal - Series 350 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
    38. Piedmont - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA >>

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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    Scans posted.
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    fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭
    Neato, who's on the fronts?
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>Neato, who's on the fronts? >>



    A buncha dead guys I never heard of!image

    I could scan the fronts for you if you are interested in seeing them though.
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    corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    what is the deep pockets part all about?
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>what is the deep pockets part all about? >>




    Well, to me, and most of the free world, the $5,500 I have put into this set over the 4 month span would be considered a fairly decent amount of scratch. Not life changing, but not peanuts either. Perhaps thats nothing compared to your card budget, but its all relative I suppose.
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    corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>what is the deep pockets part all about? >>




    Well, to me, and most of the free world, the $5,500 I have put into this set over the 4 month span would be considered a fairly decent amount of scratch. Not life changing, but not peanuts either. Perhaps thats nothing compared to your card budget, but its all relative I suppose. >>



    I was just wondering. I have no idea how much that set is worth. I thought maybe it was in the hundreds of thousands or something when you said deep pockets.
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


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    << <i>what is the deep pockets part all about? >>




    Well, to me, and most of the free world, the $5,500 I have put into this set over the 4 month span would be considered a fairly decent amount of scratch. Not life changing, but not peanuts either. Perhaps thats nothing compared to your card budget, but its all relative I suppose. >>



    I was just wondering. I have no idea how much that set is worth. I thought maybe it was in the hundreds of thousands or something when you said deep pockets. >>




    Thats the problem concerning "cost" in general. There are members here who may think that $200 is alot of money for a baseball card, and there are others who think $5,000 is chump change for a baseball card. For my specific situation, $5,500 is alot of money for baseball cards, but I have spent 5 figures on multiple occassions on gold bullion purchases without even flinching. So its all relative.
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    SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice set.....Congratulations! image

    Next, you should get the regular Old Mill back, along with the American Beauty (with border) and Red Hindu.

    Then, you can go for the different series/factory designations.


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    Steve
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    those are some nice t206's. 25k on a cobb back is crazy
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>Very nice set.....Congratulations! image

    Next, you should get the regular Old Mill back, along with the American Beauty (with border) and Red Hindu.

    Then, you can go for the different series/factory designations.


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    Steve >>



    I have the OM regular and the AB350 with frame and without frame. In fact, I have another 7-10 cards with different backs that I didnt post here. There are a total of 38 different backs counting all the varieties. The 15 posted here is the "basic" set, or 1 example from each brand. It is my goal to complete 36 of those 38 backs.....im ommiting the Cobb back, and the blank backs. I dont think either belongs in the set personally. Thanks for the compliments though!!!
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    MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    Nice collection. If you post individual scans I will make them into same size/cropped scans for you. The currents scans do not look good when cut down so much.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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    GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I hope your Uzit back that is coming in a few weeks isnt Jennings.
    If so Id check out the thread on Net 54.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>I hope your Uzit back that is coming in a few weeks isnt Jennings.
    If so Id check out the thread on Net 54. >>




    Yes it was.....what a complete train wreck isnt it? I feel so violated!image

    P.S.- Thats my thread.
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>Nice collection. If you post individual scans I will make them into same size/cropped scans for you. The currents scans do not look good when cut down so much. >>




    I sincerely thank you for the offer. Member TNP did this for me about an hour ago or so....he did a phenomenal job!

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    HoofHeartedHoofHearted Posts: 2,537 ✭✭
    I really enjoyed your collection! Thanks for taking the time to share it here!

    I only own one T206 and it's in my Senators/Twins collection. It's a German Schaeffer with a Sweet Caporal back. Is that one of the most common backs?? I haven't studied the tobacco cards enough to know what's rare and what isn't...
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    Thanks. I have read somewhere that Sweet Caporal and Piedmont constitute over 60% of all T206 backs. They are the most common 2 brands for sure. Each of those has several "varieties" however. Not even the "rarest" Caporal back is hard to find, however the Piedmont back has a variety that occurs with the 350-460 subjects made at factory 42. That variation of Piedmont is actually pretty scarce, and common player, lower grade cards of that variety often times sell for up to $200.
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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a great looking set of T206 backs. They look great with the 15 types all pictured together like that...image

    Good luck with completing your goal of 36 different backs...

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

    Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
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    SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have the OM regular and the AB350 with frame and without frame. In fact, I have another 7-10 cards with different backs that I didnt post here. There are a total of 38 different backs counting all the varieties. The 15 posted here is the "basic" set, or 1 example from each brand. It is my goal to complete 36 of those 38 backs.....im ommiting the Cobb back, and the blank backs. I dont think either belongs in the set personally. Thanks for the compliments though!!! >>




    I agree with you about the Cobb back and blank back. I'm also working on the set, and am currently at around 51%. I've also got at least one of each of the following backs:

    El Principe de Gales
    Old Mill
    Old Mill (Southern League)
    Piedmont 150
    Piedmont 350
    Piedmont 350-460
    Polar Bear
    Sovereign 150
    Sovereign 350
    Sweet Caporal 150
    Sweet Caporal 350
    Sweet Caporal 350-460
    Tolstoi

    I'm not planning on getting all the different factories, but who knows.....once (and if) I actually get a Drum, Lenox, Uzit, Broadleaf, Carolina Brights and the two Hindu backs, I might decide I want to keep going.

    Good luck in your quest for completion image

    Steve
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    nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    I collect just football cards, but I have to say I enjoyed looking at these. Great collection!
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    gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Nice collection. If you post individual scans I will make them into same size/cropped scans for you. The currents scans do not look good when cut down so much. >>




    I sincerely thank you for the offer. Member TNP did this for me about an hour ago or so....he did a phenomenal job!

    image >>



    Great looking collection! It's cool to see them all together like that.

    Certainly not trying to pee in the pool, so I hope you take this in the manner it is intended...but I think it would look just a step cooler if the cards were rescanned with the scanner lid open (dark background). Some of those softer corners add a TON of character, IMO, and it would be cool to see them as they are on this single image. Just my opinion, of course.
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    I actually DID leave the lid open.....I may have to rescan with a piece of black construction paper on top of them. I agree with you about wanting to see the corners as they truly are.
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    GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    the American Beauty looks as wide as the others- is it? they are typically narrower.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>the American Beauty looks as wide as the others- is it? they are typically narrower. >>



    I wish it was...that would be an amazing find, especially on a 460! Its as narrow as any other AB card I own at right about 35mm. The average T206 is right around 37-38mm.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Nice collection. If you post individual scans I will make them into same size/cropped scans for you. The currents scans do not look good when cut down so much. >>




    I sincerely thank you for the offer. Member TNP did this for me about an hour ago or so....he did a phenomenal job!

    image >>



    Very cool and in alphabetical order for those like me who know almost nothing about T206's.
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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the American Beauty looks as wide as the others- is it? they are typically narrower. >>

    Yes, it's narrower. When I was cropping & resizing them, I made them all the exact same size - I'm a little weird like that. image
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    i find it amusing that a fireman thinks he has deep pockets
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>i find it amusing that a fireman thinks he has deep pockets >>




    Average U.S. household income for 2007 was $50,233. Data for 2009 is obviously not available yet. My household income in 2009 was $173,000. I find it amusing that a forum member with 18 posts thus far would even post garbage such as your post. I also find it amusing that you think you know my finances because of my job title.image
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    thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Let me take this opportunity to wish each of you a very (early) Merry Christmas.

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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    My household income in 2009 was $173,000.


    What company does your wife work for that pays her $160k a year?
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    thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    I have tight pockets (cause my rear is too big!) LOL


    BTW, nice cards.

    Mike
    Buying US Presidential autographs
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>My household income in 2009 was $173,000.


    What company does your wife work for that pays her $160k a year? >>




    I did $87,000, she did $86,000. She is a physical therapist.

    I dont mind divulging personal info such as this, especially when the morons like cardgoddess want to "call me out".
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    MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My household income in 2009 was $173,000.


    What company does your wife work for that pays her $160k a year? >>




    I did $87,000, she did $86,000. She is a physical therapist.

    I dont mind divulging personal info such as this, especially when the morons like cardgoddess want to "call me out". >>



    gecko, I'm calling you out. You are cardgoddess. I think it is lame you instigated an argument just to tell everyone how much money you make. lame, lame, lame, LAME, SAD!



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    86K for a physical therapist? What activities exactly are included in those sessions?
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>My household income in 2009 was $173,000.


    What company does your wife work for that pays her $160k a year? >>




    I did $87,000, she did $86,000. She is a physical therapist.

    I dont mind divulging personal info such as this, especially when the morons like cardgoddess want to "call me out". >>



    gecko, I'm calling you out. You are cardgoddess. I think it is lame you instigated an argument just to tell everyone how much money you make. lame, lame, lame, LAME, SAD! >>





    You need to stop paling around with Bill. Your "alt paranoia" is almost as bad as his!
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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>86K for a physical therapist? What activities exactly are included in those sessions? >>




    What do physical therapists make where you live.....in Chicago its from $75-$90k WITHOUT any overtime. If we didnt have a kid, my wife would make enough money for me to be too embarrassed to even talk about! She turns down well over $400/week just in overtime alone so she can spend more time with us. Thats a decision I encouraged her to make. Nothing more important than time with family.
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    MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    All it takes is a simple search for cardgoddess posts and it is obvious that you two love to use commas and quotations. Same grammar problems too. The two posting styles are the same. Lame!
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    MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>86K for a physical therapist? What activities exactly are included in those sessions? >>




    What do physical therapists make where you live.....in Chicago its from $75-$90k WITHOUT any overtime. If we didnt have a kid, my wife would make enough money for me to be too embarrassed to even talk about! She turns down well over $400/week just in overtime alone so she can spend more time with us. Thats a decision I encouraged her to make. Nothing more important than time with family. >>




    yeah, don't want that kinda income runnin' around. keep it lock and key baby.
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    jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭
    Wow this thread went to total crap in a hurry.

    -- Ryan Bell
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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    kerosene will be thrown on this dumpster fire in...


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    MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    shame, the thread looked good.
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    how did i get thrown in the fire?
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    Did you ask your wife to cut OT for more "family time" or b/c your insecurity could not handle her making more than you at FY's end?
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