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How much of a premium for the OGH
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Had an interaction with a seller (dealer) looking for a large premium (30%) for an OGH CAC $20 over a similar quality CAC example in a current holder.
My question... What premium would you pay for a coin in an old holder vs a similar quality coin in current gen plastic?
My question... What premium would you pay for a coin in an old holder vs a similar quality coin in current gen plastic?
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Current standards are tougher.
That said, there is not enough info offered to even guess if it is worth 30% more. What happens at the next grade up? How does it look? Etc.
<< <i>I haven't noticed a premium associated with the OGH (doily excluded), but I have noticed increased liquidity for them. >>
This although there are a few series where examples are rare or scarce that will incite spirited bidding. Also some series they actually bring down values such as DMPL
<< <i>Most OGH's that deserved to be upgraded have been. Is this coin going to make it now? Have to see the coin to determine. >>
Fair enough. I didn't want to post the coin because it is still for sale.
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<< <i>Most OGH's that deserved to be upgraded have been. Is this coin going to make it now? Have to see the coin to determine. >>
Fair enough. I didn't want to post the coin because it is still for sale. >>
yeah, but wasn't the question based on the fact that both coins are in fact the same grade? if one is an upgrade candidate, that negates the question, no?
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<< <i>Most OGH's that deserved to be upgraded have been. Is this coin going to make it now? Have to see the coin to determine. >>
Fair enough. I didn't want to post the coin because it is still for sale. >>
yeah, but wasn't the question based on the fact that both coins are in fact the same grade? if one is an upgrade candidate, that negates the question, no? >>
Both are the same technical grade, originality, etc. only difference to me is the OGH.
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1.) You buy the currently graded coin and happily save 30%.
2.) A few months pass and you notice your recent newp turning in the holder due to something which was unseen when graded.
3.) With the guarantee changes not only do you have to go through the hassle of shipping, waiting, but also paying.
4.) After a few months the coin returns fixed but looking different.
5.) You no longer like it and sell it off at a slight loss.
6.) You look for another and wish you'd paid up for the OGH example.
7.) Time is money and the lack of aggravation would have been well worth 30%
Edited to add:
I might pay more for a NGC non pronged or ANACS white chase holder too just for piece of mind
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<< <i>Most OGH's that deserved to be upgraded have been. Is this coin going to make it now? Have to see the coin to determine. >>
Fair enough. I didn't want to post the coin because it is still for sale. >>
yeah, but wasn't the question based on the fact that both coins are in fact the same grade? if one is an upgrade candidate, that negates the question, no? >>
Both are the same technical grade, originality, etc. only difference to me is the OGH. >>
If the only difference is the OGH, then I would pass on the 30% premium. Maybe it's worth 10% more and an easier re-sell with little chance of it being puttied.
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<< <i>Most OGH's that deserved to be upgraded have been. Is this coin going to make it now? Have to see the coin to determine. >>
Fair enough. I didn't want to post the coin because it is still for sale. >>
yeah, but wasn't the question based on the fact that both coins are in fact the same grade? if one is an upgrade candidate, that negates the question, no? >>
Both are the same technical grade, originality, etc. only difference to me is the OGH. >>
then choose on eye appeal. you have a great eye.
Both are the same technical grade, originality, etc. only difference to me is the OGH
As a collector of gold you should buy the coin, not the holder. Everyone would agree an OGH adds a certain cachet. I always have a preference when looking at 2 coins of the same grade & originality, etc. If you have not seen both in hand, perhaps you should. When/if you have, choose the one you deem the best value.
A no-line fatty or a rattler is a different story. With either of them, and with the coin being all that, I like FadetoBlack's 10% or $100, whichever is less.
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Given two equal coins at the same price and one is an OGH I'd choose that. Otherwise I'd buy the one I liked better.
Lance.
If it doesn't need a gold bean, and isn't the best looking $20 in that grade, ... 30% on a $20 seems excessive.
<< <i>I don't pay more for an OGH. Perhaps Tom is right and it'll be easier to sell down the road.
Given two equal coins at the same price and one is an OGH I'd choose that. Otherwise I'd buy the one I liked better.
Lance. >>
Would you pay 30% more for a green CAC OGH that is only slightly better in the grade?
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<< <i>The premium would depend on the coin however I prefer older holders for long term ownership as stability while stored in my SDB is my main concern. >>
What he said!
But there are exceptions to this rule.
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<< <i>I'd probably buy the OGH over a modern slab just for the coolness. But if I paid a premium it would be awfully small.
A no-line fatty or a rattler is a different story. With either of them, and with the coin being all that, I like FadetoBlack's 10% or $100, whichever is less. >>
Small premium here as well. Maybe $15 for a second generation and $25 for the rattler.
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<< <i>I don't pay more for an OGH. Perhaps Tom is right and it'll be easier to sell down the road.
Given two equal coins at the same price and one is an OGH I'd choose that. Otherwise I'd buy the one I liked better.
Lance. >>
Would you pay 30% more for a green CAC OGH that is only slightly better in the grade? >>
That isn't OP's question. He said they are the same quality. So no, I wouldn't pay 30% more for the OGH.
If one was better than the other then yes, I would pay more. How much more would depend on how much nicer it was, and how much 30% amounts to.
Lance.
Given two equal coins at the same price and one is an OGH I'd choose that. Otherwise I'd buy the one I liked better.
Lance.
Another point - I saw a somewhat better late date walker in a 64 rattler holder at a show last weekend....sensing perhaps some
opportunity, I examined it....and it was lucky to have gotten a 64 at the time, because it wouldn't now. Way too many contact marks.
Common type coin, no way.
The coin should be a little easier to sell but not at a premium, ask your self how many dealers are going to pay YOU 30 percent extra for having your coins in OGH's when the time comes to sell.
I like buying coins in the OGH holders, I like the look a lot better than the blue insert but not for extra.
This would be a great question for someone on here that has Laura's super secret cell phone number to get her thoughts.
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i'm not into "holder" premium or added stickers
i was just looking at 42 proof walkers
one is a rattler with gold cac......"oh my".....pr64....$1150
one is current with green cac.......................pr66.....$625
sillyness is how i see it and in with the crowd who agrees
utter sillyness
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<< <i>did somebody say red copper in OGH
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Would love to see the reverse!
In a newer holder no matter how many stickers it had I wouldn't even glance at a RD like this...
Since my coins only come home to visits 3-4 times a year it just wouldn't be worth the risk.
I don't play the holder or sticker game.
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I'd pay a premium if I like the coin!
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