What do you think about this Morgan of 1921?

Realone · February 24, 2012 7:23AM

MidLifeCrisis · February 24, 2012 7:25AM

Doesn't do much for me...but then, most Morgans don't.

morgansforever · February 24, 2012 7:27AM

What do I think, think I need a 50 inch monitor

64/65ish, nice coin.

EDIT: After looking at the 20MB pics, I'm seeing some wear.
Is that graffiti to the left of the olive leaves?

sawyerjosh · February 24, 2012 7:27AM

63+

blu62vette · February 24, 2012 7:28AM

Nice strike for a 21, but doesn't seem to have much pop or luster.

AUandAG · February 24, 2012 7:28AM

Net AU58 for cleaning.

bob

ColonialCoinUnion · February 24, 2012 7:29AM

64.

CalGold · February 24, 2012 7:33AM

I don't like it.

CG

morgandollar1878 · February 24, 2012 7:39AM

AU58

Sonorandesertrat · February 24, 2012 8:10AM

Interesting, faint initials (lambda---gamma---pi) near the tip of the olive branch)---I assume they are on the holder?

Broadstruck · February 24, 2012 8:15AM

Like it better then yesterdays posted great white wonder

Zrider · February 24, 2012 8:35AM

It would make a nice 55 gallon drum lid.

Raybob15239 · February 24, 2012 10:57AM

Looks like it would be AU58 or MS 60. Looks like a slider. VAM 3... Can't tell if there are scribbles...

Unknown · February 24, 2012 10:58AM

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blu62vette · February 24, 2012 11:13AM

<< <i>No graffitti etc.
Do the dentils look a bit defferent to thee? >>

Are you hinting proof?

magikbilly · February 24, 2012 12:53PM

That is a nice strike. I don't know about BMPr's, but this seems to have not-so-squared off digits and font, at least compared to Philly Pr coins. I have seen or 2 PL or semi Pl 21-S Morgans in all my years. Is this semi-Pl? Hair lined and Die Polish too? George's initial is quite clear!

Best wishes,
Eric

coinsarefun · February 24, 2012 1:14PM

I'm not sure if I am liking this one very much, sorry

Unknown · February 24, 2012 1:22PM

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coinsarefun · February 24, 2012 1:27PM

I don't think its a proof.....even an impaired proof.
The rims and strike(although nice) is not that of a Proof ....IMO

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coinsarefun · February 24, 2012 1:46PM

Here is a link to a 1921 Proof at VamWorld

You can look through and some have large images of high grade 1921's

Here is a Zerbe

Even a BU at Heritage looks simalir to the one you posted, rims and strike

baseballjeff · February 24, 2012 1:46PM

I like it!

Unknown · February 24, 2012 1:50PM

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DennisH · February 24, 2012 1:51PM

I'm wow'd by the photos.
But not the coin.

coinsarefun · February 24, 2012 1:54PM

Link to Zerbe

Also....just in case you were thinking its a Zerbe.
Here is a description

1921 $1 Zerbe PR66 PCGS. The 1921 Zerbe proof Dollars were struck for the influential numismatist Farran Zerbe.

The story goes that since the mint did not have the dies prepared, and the new Peace Dollars ready for distribution by the time of the ANA in the
summer of that year, as a "personal favor" to Zerbe the mint struck off some undetermined number of proofs of the 1921 Morgan Dollar.

Estimates of the number struck of this special issue range widely from only a few dozen pieces to as many as 200. As with all genuine Zerbe specimens, there is a faint die scratch extending from the second U in UNUM to the border.
This is an especially fine example that is brilliant throughout.

The fields show the swirling die polish marks that are also diagnostic of all Zerbe strikings. However, unlike many Zerbe proofs, this piece was carefully handled
and there are virtually no contact marks on either side of this brilliant coin.
Fully struck throughout, with complete detailing evident even on the reverse wreath, which is where fullness of strike is determined on the redesigned 1921 issues.

Unknown · February 24, 2012 1:59PM

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coinsarefun · February 24, 2012 2:10PM

Ok....I give, what are you thinking abut this Morgan......I must be missing something

Unknown · February 24, 2012 2:16PM

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coinsarefun · February 24, 2012 2:30PM

This is about the best I have, yours is a little but better strike

Unknown · February 24, 2012 2:42PM

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oneor11 · February 25, 2012 12:34AM

Not to hijack the thread, but could you experts provide a bit of education? My initial thoughts are the obverse field marks around 7-8:00, 11:00 and around the interior of the letters are hairlines from a directional cleaning. Later in the thread many of you seemed to attribute them as die polish marks. Can you help me understand how you would tell the difference? Thanks.

Jacob

Prethen · February 25, 2012 12:36AM

I'm having trouble seeing the details of your coin. Could you possibly get a higher resolution photo and get it a lot bigger?

anablep · February 25, 2012 12:43AM

Could be a 58, could be a 64. Hard to tell from those images.

I think the extreme closeup hi-res images sometimes do more harm than good in posts like this.

In any case, I like your coin; nice strike for a 21...

blu62vette · February 25, 2012 1:11AM

You can PM the auction link and I can link the images.

Here is one of my PL 1921's, not sure it if works for your comparison. I have been told this one is not off proof dies.

roadrunner · February 25, 2012 1:13AM

Much finer strike that anything typically encountered. At first glance I didn't even think it was a 1921.

coinkat · February 25, 2012 1:22AM

Not as compelling as the 1921-s which is the subject of a different thread of yours

messydesk · February 25, 2012 6:17AM

1921 comes sharply struck, as they didn't suffer from the same die wear problems they had in San Francisco. They're also available, but not common, with PL surfaces. I agree that there are hairlines in the lower left obverse of the OP coins. The coin has a D2 reverse design, which immediately rules out its being struck from proof dies, as those had the D1 reverse hub. The "Zerbe proofs" were struck with the VAM 1AG and possible also the VAM 47die pairs. The VAM 1AG was more recently studied as a Zerbe proof than the VAM 47. There's further commentary on the VAMWorld pages.

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CalGold · February 25, 2012 7:27AM

I do not understand what you see that makes you think this coin is special. The strike on Todd's PL is much better. The photo of your coin shows not indication of PL surfaces. You can’t just compare your coin to one coin of the same date and decide that it is special because of differences in strike quality. Take a look at some large format photos of the coins in Coin Facts

There is however, one puzzling thing about your coin. That is the meaning of lambda gamma pi. My Google search failed to find any Greek letter organization with those letters in that order. Perhaps it was a pocket piece for someone from a now defunct group with that name. Otherwise it appears to be a lack luster, hairlined, graffitied 1921 Morgan.

CG

lcoopie · February 25, 2012 7:45AM

I find the huge photos to be a little difficult to evaluate,
perhaps somewhere in the middle?

messydesk · February 25, 2012 7:57AM

OK, other than the timing and the coin pictured, can someone clear up the relationship between this thread and
this article?

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