Metal detectorist finds an 1835 bust dime with a beautiful patina and then ....

rec78 · February 19, 2012 1:37PM

Just totally ruins it !

Those metal detector guys should have to take a course in coin valuation before being allowed to hunt coins.

USMoneylover · February 19, 2012 1:44PM

Wow that's a real shame.

TURBO · February 19, 2012 1:53PM

BAJJERFAN · February 19, 2012 2:10PM

Why does that YouTube link freeze up FireFox for me?

Broadstruck · February 19, 2012 2:16PM

He cleaned it up alright!

mrpaseo · February 19, 2012 2:20PM

Damn.

GoldClause · February 19, 2012 2:23PM

Caped bust.

LanceNewmanOCC · February 19, 2012 2:23PM

<< Why does that YouTube link freeze up FireFox for me? >>

i don't know what version you are using but 3.6 was acting up really bad for me recently so i switched to 4.0 and we're humming along once again

can't do board searches too effectively, gotta switch over to IE for those ><
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 19, 2012 2:28PM

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i don't see what the big deal is about cleaning that coin

it will most likely re-tone within another 170-180 years

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Bochiman · February 19, 2012 2:45PM

"It's flawless"

The guy is "smart enough" to use video and youtube, but not smart enough to search on what to do with coins found by metal detecting.

Moron.

BAJJERFAN · February 19, 2012 2:53PM

<< 

<< Why does that YouTube link freeze up FireFox for me? >>

i don't know what version you are using but 3.6 was acting up really bad for me recently so i switched to 4.0 and we're humming along once again

can't do board searches too effectively, gotta switch over to IE for those ><
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I have 3.6 but was able to open other YouTube videos. I see FF is starting to freeze up more and more often, esp. if multiple windows are open.

melvin289 · February 19, 2012 2:54PM

In the words of Fred Flintstone, "Bracken fracken."

Ron

coindeuce · February 19, 2012 3:02PM

Firefighter should find a new brain, since his is burned to a crisp. I wonder how many other coins this genius has rescued since the 1835 "caped bust" dime was scrubbed in June of 2010.

fc · February 19, 2012 3:05PM

The guy just did what the majority of coin collectors did a few decades ago. Heck... The guy will prob not sell it either making it look the way he wants for his personal collection. Plus i did not see hairlines like it was harshly cleaned. Some strong dip perhaps?

coindeuce · February 19, 2012 3:09PM

<< The guy just did what the majority of coin collectors did a few decades ago. Heck... The guy will prob not sell it either making it look the way he wants for his personal collection. Plus i did not see hairlines like it was harshly cleaned. Some strong dip perhaps? >>

Anybody that likes shiny coins while being ignorant of the value of natural patina should stick to admiring their pocket change.

WoodenJefferson · February 19, 2012 3:25PM

Rubba-dub-dub....give that bust dime a scrub!

determined · February 19, 2012 3:36PM

You've just ruined a valuable piece of history ...

Seriously, what a shame. It was a beauty fresh from the ground.

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19Lyds · February 19, 2012 6:15PM

I don't really believe that the coin was dug up, but thats just me.

I mean, it looked like a lawn, it was supposed to be 6 inches down which is well within the saturation point for water and yet.............the coin didn't have any corrosion?

I don't know about this.

rec78 · February 19, 2012 7:07PM

<< I don't really believe that the coin was dug up, but thats just me.

I mean, it looked like a lawn, it was supposed to be 6 inches down which is well within the saturation point for water and yet.............the coin didn't have any corrosion?

I don't know about this. >>

I did a lot of metal detecting in the 1970's and most of the silver coins I found were not corroded - I never found one this old but I did find a few barbers and Standing liberty half dollars-Most of them show no signs of corrosion. Most silver coins will come out of the ground in the state they went in unless there is some corrosive element in the soil-The copper and nickel coins (and clad of course) are always corroded. I found an AU 1934 seated liberty half dollar in an old park-It was probably lost about 1936 or earlier and you could never tell it was in the ground. From your photos the reverse does appear to have some black spots which could be the start of corrosion. I found lots of mercs and barber dimes and most of them were not corroded at all. If you watch other metal detector find videos you can see when the mercs and barbers are unearthed they don't have any corrosion on them usually. I am sure he found it and ruined it. Why would anyone falsify a video like this?
Bob

jayPem · February 19, 2012 7:11PM

<< I don't really believe that the coin was dug up, but thats just me.

I mean, it looked like a lawn, it was supposed to be 6 inches down which is well within the saturation point for water and yet.............the coin didn't have any corrosion?

I don't know about this. >>

My very first impression as well....
Looks like a nice coin out of someones collection with a little dirt thrown on it, it may even be a different coin at the end, some dipped pos and he's just a joker fooling around with us coin geeks ?

notwilight · February 19, 2012 7:13PM

We've seen one or two "dug" coins that turned out to fakes but I don't think this is one. I agree silver should not corrode in most ground locations. Even copper may not corrode in some locations, so I've read. --Jerry

itsnotjustme · February 19, 2012 10:36PM

I have found loads of silver in respectable condition.

johnny9434 · February 20, 2012 1:22AM

what a pinhead for doing that

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steveben · February 20, 2012 1:54AM

man, you could see all the hairlines after he cleaned it. he did a harsh cleaning job on that dime. should have just done a soak in acetone and it would have graded nicely i bet.

well, for all you "caped" crusaders out there...that's one more you don't have to worry about.

yellowkid · February 20, 2012 1:54AM

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19Lyds · February 20, 2012 2:20AM

<< I did a lot of metal detecting in the 1970's and most of the silver coins I found were not corroded - I never found one this old but I did find a few barbers and Standing liberty half dollars-Most of them show no signs of corrosion. Most silver coins will come out of the ground in the state they went in unless there is some corrosive element in the soil-The copper and nickel coins (and clad of course) are always corroded. I found an AU 1934 seated liberty half dollar in an old park-It was probably lost about 1936 or earlier and you could never tell it was in the ground. From your photos the reverse does appear to have some black spots which could be the start of corrosion. I found lots of mercs and barber dimes and most of them were not corroded at all. If you watch other metal detector find videos you can see when the mercs and barbers are unearthed they don't have any corrosion on them usually. I am sure he found it and ruined it. Why would anyone falsify a video like this?
Bob >>

Thanks for the explanation.

AUandAG · February 20, 2012 2:35AM

<< and the REAL funny aspect of this is that he put it on utube, what a brainiac, now everyone can see he is a big dummy, its one thing when only a small select few of his friends watches his video, but now he is blasting across the world that he knows next to nothing about his digs! This big dummy and that gal judge thumbing the draped bust dollar really show the world how truly stupid some of us are. >>

If you think that those that watch this on Utube will think he's a dummy, think again. Most folks out there do not know anything
about coin collecting or preservation. This video will show them the "right" way to preserve a coin. Clearly it will not show him
to be the dummy.

bob

ricko · February 20, 2012 2:50AM

First of all, all you keyboard commando's calling names should just back off. It is his coin, he found it, he can do with it as he pleases. None of you know the person. He obviously is not a numismatist, just an honest, hobby MD'r, enjoying himself. People cleaned coins for generations gone by, it was the preferred state. Now, is different. You all display ignorance and lack of tolerance by calling him names and even disparaging him as a fake. Glad you all are clairvoyant - you must be to determine all of this from his video. Really, step back, take deep breath, and leave people enjoy themselves. He does not care about your hobby, leave him to pursue his interests. Cheers, RickO

SONOMOSCA · February 20, 2012 2:55AM

Maybe he was just wanted to cross off a line on his bucket list which says "FIND VALUABLE COIN WITH METAL DETECTOR, GIVE IT A REALLY GOOD SCRUBBIN TO DEVALUE, AND THEN POST IT ON YOUTUBE."

What a shame!

johnrav · February 20, 2012 3:02AM

<< 

<< I don't really believe that the coin was dug up, but thats just me.

I mean, it looked like a lawn, it was supposed to be 6 inches down which is well within the saturation point for water and yet.............the coin didn't have any corrosion?

I don't know about this. >>

My very first impression as well....
Looks like a nice coin out of someones collection with a little dirt thrown on it, it may even be a different coin at the end, some dipped pos and he's just a joker fooling around with us coin geeks ? >>

I agree. to go one step further, I watched little bit of some of his other 'discovery's' and found it odd, he was able to dig up the coin to exactly where it was (depth wise) in the ground. each time. Like this video, he has a large clump of dirt, all together, and the coin is stuck in the bottom, or top now that it is flipped
over, showing perfectly. It also seems, there is just about the same about of dirt (not much at all) stuck to the coin.

really couldn't care less either way, but just an interesting observation.

Broadstruck · February 20, 2012 3:03AM

<< OK , I will come clean, I am secretly happy, I was worried when another high grade 1835 was just discovered that i woul dno longer have the finest known, the big dummy diid me a favor, I am still numero uno!

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Numero Uno

hchcoin · February 20, 2012 3:09AM

That was a beautiful coin

Ceephus · February 20, 2012 3:11AM

Forget the cleaning for a minute, what about handling it with your bare fingers. When I metal detect, I do it with tight gloves. Unless its a modern coin or cull, it never gets touched.

jayPem · February 20, 2012 3:11AM

<< First of all, all you keyboard commando's calling names should just back off. It is his coin, he found it, he can do with it as he pleases. None of you know the person. He obviously is not a numismatist, just an honest, hobby MD'r, enjoying himself. People cleaned coins for generations gone by, it was the preferred state. Now, is different. You all display ignorance and lack of tolerance by calling him names and even disparaging him as a fake. Glad you all are clairvoyant - you must be to determine all of this from his video. Really, step back, take deep breath, and leave people enjoy themselves. He does not care about your hobby, leave him to pursue his interests. Cheers, RickO >>

Yep.
But....keep in mind that once you put anything out on the internets, it's pretty much up for critique.

ricko · February 20, 2012 3:14AM

<< Yep. But....keep in mind that once you put anything out on the internets, it's pretty much up for critique. >>

Very true, and those who post anything but constructive commentary demonstrate their intellectual shortcomings. Cheers, RickO

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roadrunner · February 20, 2012 3:42AM

To the general public this coin is "perfect," even with the newly applied shiny "proof like" surfaces. I guess that's why so many show up at coin
shops expecting gem unc prices for what they found in the dirt or in the attic. I wonder if the urge to scrub off original mint luster is as strong as
the urge to remove any toning or dirt? We'll know the answer to that when our fire fighter runs across an unc 19th century coin.

mrpaseo · February 20, 2012 3:52AM

I wonder what his hit count was before this thread and what it will be like when all said and done. I bet he is like... "Holy smokes, my hit went up 100 today"...lol

yellowkid · February 20, 2012 3:56AM

<< 

<< Yep. But....keep in mind that once you put anything out on the internets, it's pretty much up for critique. >>

Very true, and those who post anything but constructive commentary demonstrate their intellectual shortcomings. Cheers, RickO >>

I don't know about that, if I enjoy shooting up old paintings, I would expect some art collectors to criticize my "hobby"

yellowkid · February 20, 2012 4:01AM

I'm going back some, but I seem to remember "firefighter" as a pejorative used by regular jakes when talking about volunteers??

bosco5041 · February 20, 2012 5:20AM

<< 

<< I don't really believe that the coin was dug up, but thats just me.

I mean, it looked like a lawn, it was supposed to be 6 inches down which is well within the saturation point for water and yet.............the coin didn't have any corrosion?

I don't know about this. >>

My very first impression as well....
Looks like a nice coin out of someones collection with a little dirt thrown on it, it may even be a different coin at the end, some dipped pos and he's just a joker fooling around with us coin geeks ? >>

I agree, the coin looks like it had the dirt rubbed on it to me, it all looked staged to me, but I could be wrong.

oneor11 · February 20, 2012 5:50AM

<< I wonder what his hit count was before this thread and what it will be like when all said and done. I bet he is like... "Holy smokes, my hit went up 100 today"...lol >>

Yes. And the hateful comments people are leaving on his YouTube today are really unfortunate. I'd like to think that it's not people from this forum leaving those.....

Jacob

Hussulo · February 20, 2012 6:21AM

He obviously didn't know what he was doing when he polished it up but hopefully he has learned something, and people aren't too hard on him. I metal detect occasionally but what really gets me is, how so many people buy a metal detector, go out with the hopes of finding something great but don't do much reaserch into what to do with the items when they find them. Unfortunetly I have seen many a coin ruined this way.

Mockingjay · February 20, 2012 7:20AM

Not heard on the video..."Now to break out the high speed Dremel polishing wheel..."

Folks have a natural tendency to want to clean things up. Years ago, I let someone hold a nice Morgan (thankfully common date) and they immediately began rubbing their thumbs on it as if to polish it. I try to preface my conversations about coins with the unknowing: "Never clean a coin!".

That being said, wonder if his wife "salted" the spot to make him a happy man. The coin does look a little too clean to have been buried long.

WestySteve · February 20, 2012 7:40AM

Now all he needs to do is bury the coin right back where he found it so it will retone. I've heard that burying coins speeds toning.

It'd be ironic if that is why it was there in the first place...a collector trying to retone his cleaned coin. Hey, was it inside a potato?

pcgs69 · February 20, 2012 7:48AM

I see no reason to doubt that this coin was found with a metal detector. Coins come out of the ground in all kinds of conditions.

For the comment about how it was on top of the plug... usually people start videoing after the item's been found. You just place the coin there for effect. I suppose he could be juggling it or balancing it on his nose, but he decided to place it there to give us a feeling where it came from. This placement has been done many times on many videos.

Here is the original thread of his find on Treasurenet: Link . As you can see, he was told about cleaning vs original. I would have figured that more people in this forum would have jumped at him... not to show how superior we are, but to help him learn. I sure hope those recent comments on his youtube video aren't from this forum. I'm sure the members here would kindly explain not to clean a coin.

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