Getting Toned Coins Graded -Question-

Tercentenary · February 13, 2012 7:29AM

Hello all,

Tercentenary here, the new guy on the block.

I'm fairly new to collecting (3 years) mostly bullion with a handful of numismatics. Thank you for having me aboard!

After searching I still have not found a satisfactory answer and was hoping someone could help me out. What is the grading criteria in regards to toned coins what do the grading companies consider "natural toning" vs "artificial toning".

I have a few coins from old framed coin displays as well as dansco albums that have nice toning. I have considered sending a couple in for grading but don't know what to expect or whether they would be rejected as artificial or not.

Any information is appreciated.

T

airplanenut · February 13, 2012 7:40AM

Can you show us some pictures? It's a lot easier to say what is right or wrong about an example, rather than just list information blind. Unless you're ricko, in which case all toning is insurmountable damage

Justlooking · February 13, 2012 7:47AM

Do post some photos. As I understand it, PCGS has become a little tighter on toners, but natural toning is natural toning.

Tercentenary · February 13, 2012 7:57AM

Thanks for the quick responses. Here is the only example I have a picture of:

thecoinlook · February 13, 2012 8:08AM

As far as the toning, I believe it would grade. However, the coin appears to have been cleaned (at least from the pic).

TomB · February 13, 2012 8:16AM

Your Peace dollar appears to have been polished and would not grade at PCGS or NGC. These coins that were put in frames were typically circulated pieces that were polished prior to sale. The high sulfur content of the polish accelerated the toning on these coins. They will not grade.

Tercentenary · February 13, 2012 8:22AM

Thanks a lot for that info.

With that particular coin I could not tell, but i have a few framed sets where the polishing is more obvious. In this case, the picture is taken through a plexi cover? I didn't mention that, but I'm sure you guys can tell a cleaned coin from one that's not.

yellowkid · February 13, 2012 11:48AM

That toning is very pretty.

lkeigwin · February 13, 2012 11:57AM

<< <i>Your Peace dollar appears to have been polished and would not grade at PCGS or NGC. These coins that were put in frames were typically circulated pieces that were polished prior to sale. The high sulfur content of the polish accelerated the toning on these coins. They will not grade. >>

Welcome! Brace yourself for a ride!

Advice like this, from our resident expert TomB, will save you a lot of money. Listen and heed.
Lance.

azxc · February 13, 2012 1:42PM

I think toning from an album or folder is considered natural. There are people that will tone a coin artificially in ways I will not say. But I believe that TPGs have a machine or something that can sniff out AT coins.

bestclser1 · February 13, 2012 1:56PM

<< <i>Your Peace dollar appears to have been polished and would not grade at PCGS or NGC. These coins that were put in frames were typically circulated pieces that were polished prior to sale. The high sulfur content of the polish accelerated the toning on these coins. They will not grade. >>

Its a shame too,because it toned nice,but alas Dr. Tom is correct as usual.

Tercentenary · February 13, 2012 2:29PM

Thank you so much guys you have answered many questions.

Yes I really like the toning on this one.

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