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Opinions as to the grade of the nice wheat cent.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    MS64RD.

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  • GoldClauseGoldClause Posts: 838 ✭
    Pics make it looked dipped.
  • lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pics make it looked dipped. >>



    I agree. That picture does not do the color or luster any justice. Having said that, the strike is excellent and I would say 65 details. The strike is so good I would wonder whether it is the mythilogical '17 MPL...image
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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a PCGS MS64RD:
    imageimage
  • MVCMVC Posts: 277


    << <i>Pics make it looked dipped. >>



    ditto
  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588


    << <i>Here's a PCGS MS64RD:
    imageimage >>

    Thats at least a 65. Very nice coin!
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Judging from the background, the entire photo looks washed out. No decision possible.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't tell from those photos. It looks hammered. Philly '17's were pretty nice.

    Little scratch over UNITED? Some dark toning under the bow tie? A spot on the lapel? Some noise to the right of the portrait? Maybe nothing, maybe something.

    Nice rims!

    Here's a high grade one to compare.
    Lance.

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  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588


    << <i>I can't tell from those photos. It looks hammered. Philly '17's were pretty nice.

    Little scratch over UNITED? Some dark toning under the bow tie? A spot on the lapel? Some noise to the right of the portrait? Maybe nothing, maybe something.

    Nice rims!

    Here's a high grade one to compare.
    Lance.

    imageimage >>

    How can we compare when you dont tell us the grade? image
  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    MS64WT

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the picture... MS64... could well be better in hand...Cheers, RickO
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    The rims look very squared off too!
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as it remains raw ... MS60. Once it is in major TPG plastic with a sticker ... MS64. In the US coin market, plastic and stickers are what add value today.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PR64RDimage
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ike's 1917 looks like a 65.

    I have no opinion about the op's 1917 since the image isn't telling me anything about its color.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • icsoccericsoccer Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭
    63 or genuine / hit under CE and obverse looks choppy...pics limit judgement on color / cleaning
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am in the 63/64 crowd
    WS
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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Pics make it looked dipped. >>



    MS64RD if not dipped. It looks like there's some "carbon blooming" especially on the reverse, which is a sign there may have been some monkey business done on this coin at some time in the past.

    Fuzzy and indistinct carbon spotting (in contrast with carbon spots that are darker with clearly defined edges) is a red flag for me.
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, this is THE 1917 matte proof Lincoln head cent.
    It is not my coin but --
    -- of course I wish it were!
    ( This coin carries it's own credentials)
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to 291fifth -- it is PR not MS so you failed the grading test.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baloney
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    i think the OP got the image here (scroll down)

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to ambro51: Salami!
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a mighty poor image for such a rare piece.image

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>to 291fifth -- it is PR not MS so you failed the grading test. >>



    It doesn't look like a proof to me.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To mr1874 -- these images here were actually taken by Bill Fivaz, author of the Cherrypickers's guide. I guess I have seen better images of coins.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It had the inside the C die scratch on the reverse
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To ambro51 -- "It had the inside the C die scratch on the reverse" -- can you tell me what your comment means, unclear to me.
    thanks,
    buffnixx
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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"

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