45 P Merc.....DDO ?

Harry779 · January 14, 2012 8:27PM

Thanks for looking!

ricko · January 14, 2012 11:49PM

Possibly...hard to determine from those pictures... looks like there could be split serifs (G & E)... but difficult to ascertain. Could be machine doubling.. need better pictures... the angle is deceptive. Cheers, RickO

fcloud · January 14, 2012 11:52PM

Nice images, but can we get one of that quality of the date straight on.

I think it is, but the straight on date would help.

JRocco · January 15, 2012 12:19AM

I am not convinced by what I can see that that is more than strike doubling.

frnklnlvr · January 15, 2012 1:29AM

Looks to be a genuine doubled die. I'm almost 100% sure of this.

Harry779 · January 15, 2012 1:33AM

I only have a crappy camera. If I try and shoot directly straight on,then you cant see any details.These are pretty much the best shots I can get.

I am looking at microscopes/cams.

fcloud · January 15, 2012 1:50AM

Get a couple of the date at different angles. I am most interested in the tip of the 9.

Harry779 · January 15, 2012 2:34AM

You cant see it in the picture because its so tiny,but the "1" has a split right at the point.I just shot some more pictures but they are no better.

pharmer · January 15, 2012 4:08AM

It's CONECA ddo-1.

keyman64 · January 15, 2012 4:26AM

I am leaning towards WDDO-002 but we need a head on shot of the date. It will be the location of the split in the '9' that tells us. If the split is in the middle of the '9' it is the WDDO-001 but if it is more to the right or the back side of the '9' then it is the WDDO-002....which is what I think it is based on the photos so far. Hard to tell.

But you definitely have one of them.

What would you grade it?

grip · January 15, 2012 4:28AM

Looks split to me.

Harry779 · January 15, 2012 5:44AM

CONECA descriptions:
DDO #1-Medium spread on date, designer's initials, with light spread on IN GOD WE TRUST and ERTY of LIBERTY

DDO #2-Medium spread on date

DDO #3-Strong extra thickness on date, designer's initials, IN GOD WE TRUST, and LIBERTY

DDO #4-Light spread on date and IN GOD WE TRUST

I dont see any doubling on LIBERTY at all.I am thinking it could be #4

The split on the tail of the 9 seems to start a little bit from the tip.

I am thinking its a MS64/65 non FB (its blast white)

Harry779 · January 15, 2012 6:19AM

Tony, heres one more picture...maybe you can see it better.

keyman64 · January 15, 2012 7:28AM

WDDO-002

The split on the 9 tells you this.

Harry779 · January 15, 2012 9:19AM

OK so thats a Wexler # ...correct?

Thanks to all who helped out!

keyman64 · January 15, 2012 9:31AM

<< <i>OK so thats a Wexler # ...correct?

Thanks to all who helped out! >>

Correct. It matches up with CONECA DDO-002....same same I believe.

Harry779 · March 12, 2012 8:59PM

I sent this 45-P to CONECA. Its a new discovery...

DDO-005, 5-O-II-C, stage B, MDS.

fcloud · March 12, 2012 9:25PM

Congratulations!

keyman64 · March 12, 2012 9:52PM

<< <i>I sent this 45-P to CONECA. Its a new discovery...

DDO-005, 5-O-II-C, stage B, MDS. >>

WOW, that is really cool! Congrats!

JRocco · March 12, 2012 10:48PM

Hey guys,
Just a friendly comment from another variety collector.
Varieties in the Lincoln cent series took an extreme turn not too long ago when the use of microscopic tools kind of took over the norm in variety collecting. As an example, CD has listed on his site coppercoins.com 26 DDO's for the 2006 Lincoln cent alone.

26 different DDO's for just the 2006 year !

Little much you might say....well guess how many DDR's are listed for just the 2006 year coin ?
ready....
40
Yes FORTY different DDR's for just the year 2006

Well when it gets to the point that darn near every coin you look at can be magnified to the point of seeing some variation due to the nature of preparing the dies then many people will just stop looking and caring about these because they are soo common and soo minor that they all tend to be the same.

Careful the direction you take this because I think it will decrease collector interest as well as the value placed on the variations.

This from a variety weenie who no longer looks at modern Lincoln coinage because it is no longer fun.

keyman64 · March 13, 2012 1:08AM

JRocco, that sounds NUTS! Wow.

This variety that Harry779 found looks like it is as strong or possibly stronger than the new 1945 DDO listed in the Cherrypickers' Guide so that is a good sign. I could not imagine 20-40+ varieties for one particular year. That is just insane. Not only that but the differences have to be really minor at some point making them meaningless. I would not enjoy that at all. Luckily, the Mercury Dime has been out and done for a long time. People have had plenty of time to study them so hopefully there will not be too many more "New Discoveries" like there is with something that was just minted yesterday.

Harry779 · March 13, 2012 2:18AM

there are only a very few important DDO/DDR coins.
most of the 40 different ones hes talking about consist of tiny bumps on a pillar or little bumps on the knees of Lincoln...etc....
extremly minor and NO ONE actually buys them. I have several tubes filled with them.Not worth attributing nor slabing.
I personally consider these minor DDR coins a joke.

mariner67 · March 13, 2012 2:26AM

"Careful the direction you take this because I think it will decrease collector interest as well as the value placed on the variations."

Words of wisdom for sure.

JRocco · March 13, 2012 9:58AM

<< <i>there are only a very few important DDO/DDR coins.
most of the 40 different ones hes talking about consist of tiny bumps on a pillar or little bumps on the knees of Lincoln...etc....
extremly minor and NO ONE actually buys them. I have several tubes filled with them.Not worth attributing nor slabing.
I personally consider these minor DDR coins a joke. >>

Not so with the DDO's Harry.
Some of those huge numbers show a better spread and more notching than many "new discoveries".
Been there, done that.
Slippery slope.

45 P Merc.....DDO ?

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