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BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
So back in late 2007 I purchased what I thought was a 1837 HT-66A MS64BN May Tenth Shin Plaster hard times token. It didn't fully thrill me for the variety but I figured I'd keep it until another came along. Yet in early 2008 when looking at a much higher priced HTT I offered it as a tentative trade and when offered a credit towards my newp higher then what I paid of course it was gone. Then a few weeks pass and I notice reviewing pics on my PC that NGC wrongly designated it as it was really a HT-67 which just doesn't come well struck or with trace red as it's a very crudely struck token. Yet I wasn't going to try to repurchase mine as it would have cost me dearly to do so. So this year coinsarefun purchases a raw May Tenth Shin Plaster at a local show, sent me a pm, and I instantly mention it's a HT-67. A few weeks pass and surfing the web a bit I find the token she purchased had sold raw in a Goldberg auction as a MS60. So after some consideration as I still do not own an example of this variety we negotiated a deal last week and it was sent my way. Today I was looking to see how it compared to the example I sold in 2008 and about an hour ago found the original 2007 dealers pictures (Black Template) and full slab scan which I had saved on an external hard drive.

Well I almost fell out of my seat as it's the same exact token! imageimage


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Comments

  • amazing. what are the chances of that? Very cool.
  • I'm looking at the rim ding on the top at coin at 12 o'clock that doesn't show up on the bottom coin. I also see the spot above M in May and the spot at the eagle's beak that are the same.

    Not trying to be negative here and congratulations on getting your coin back.

    "Rosebud."

    Ron

    Edited for spelling
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm looking at the rim ding on the top coin that doesn't show up on the bottom coin. I also see the spot above M in May and the spot at the eagle's beak that are the same. >>



    That's all holder haze as if you look at the dealers old black template obverse shot and his full slab shot there's no rim issues.

    The middle white template pics are mine only.

    I don't recall there having been any rim issues in hand when I received it or it would have been returned.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • "That's all holder haze as if you look at the dealers old black template obverse shot and his full slab shot there's no rim issues.

    The middle white template pics are mine only."

    That's great to hear. Again congratulations on getting a coin back. It's beautiful.

    Ron

    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"That's all holder haze as if you look at the dealers old black template obverse shot and his full slab shot there's no rim issues.

    The middle white template pics are mine only."

    That's great to hear. Again congratulations on getting a coin back. It's beautiful.

    Ron >>



    Thank you! image

    They both have a small hit next to the N in NOV on the obverse and there's matching muck along the A in MAY on the reverse.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>amazing. what are the chances of that? Very cool. >>



    Blows my mind that someone cracked it out of a NGC MS64 holder and then consigned it raw to Goldberg as a UNC.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>amazing. what are the chances of that? Very cool. >>



    Blows my mind that someone cracked it out of a NGC MS64 holder and then consigned it raw to Goldberg as a UNC. >>



    That does not surprise me at all.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    This happens when you are a specialty collector, when what you collect is actually rare (vice conditionally rare), and when you have friends who collect the same and are aware of what you collect. image
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>amazing. what are the chances of that? Very cool. >>



    Blows my mind that someone cracked it out of a NGC MS64 holder and then consigned it raw to Goldberg as a UNC. >>



    That does not surprise me at all. >>



    The Goldberg part is still shocking however! image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is image


    Hoard the keys.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that is quite a story... I think I have read only one other like it here on the forums over the last 11 years. Cheers, RickO
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Attention crackers:

    Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you!

    LOL!
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's an actual 1837 May Tenth HT-66A Low-47A...

    The difference between this and the HT-67 variety in the OP is the "H" on the reverse in the word "TENTH" is atop one of the leaves in the wreath.

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    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's some serious holder haze...If I was looking at that in an online auction it would seriously ding my bid. Guess you do need to see stuff in-hand, as that is a beautiful token.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The acorn under the H is easier to spot, as well as the leaf left of the date.
    Nice pictures.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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