That's a dealkiller for me. If I can't display it, brag about it, share it, or sell it, then pretty much all the joy has gone out of the equation for me and I'm still out a boatload of money. Sure, I can privately admire it, but if I am gonna do that sort of thing, I'll just go to a museum and look at their stuff without having to purchase it.
This sounds like those perhaps apocryphal tales about famous stolen art masterpieces hanging in the secret galleries of uber-rich, corrupt collectors. I fail to see the point of it. Yeah, OK, so let's say you've got Rembrandt's Storm on the Sea of Galilee hanging in your basement vault, but only you can stare at it. After a while, where's the joy?
PS- dinner with StainGuru might have been interesting, though. If it were an extended visit, he'd be sleeping on the hardwood floor in the living room where I have this computer, as we have no spare bedroom and don't even have a couch anymore. There is the cat-clawed recliner, though. He could fight the dog for that.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
That's a dealkiller for me. If I can't display it, brag about it, share it, or sell it, then pretty much all the joy has gone out of the equation for me and I'm still out a boatload of money. Sure, I can privately admire it, but if I am gonna do that sort of thing, I'll just go to a museum and look at their stuff without having to purchase it.
This sounds like those perhaps apocryphal tales about famous stolen art masterpieces hanging in the secret galleries of uber-rich, corrupt collectors. I fail to see the point of it. Yeah, OK, so let's say you've got Rembrandt's Storm on the Sea of Galilee hanging in your basement vault, but only you can stare at it. After a while, where's the joy?
PS- dinner with StainGuru might have been interesting, though. If it were an extended visit, he'd be sleeping on the hardwood floor in the living room where I have this computer, as we have no spare bedroom and don't even have a couch anymore. There is the cat-clawed recliner, though. He could fight the dog for that. >>
I would expect that those uber rich corrupt collectors get a thrill out of owning something that others would like to have. They probably are also connected enough to dispose of it secretly to a like minded person if they choose to. The artworks are likely one of a kind whereas the coins mite be one of a kind or one a few. Do you suppose that RYK has dibs on a 33 DE?
Now, a friend offers you the coin at a fraction of its market value and an affordable price to you under the condition that you can have it for the rest of your life, you cannot sell it, and it gets sold back to him or his estate at your purchase price upon your departure from the earthly forum.
I'd do the deal. I figure that at some point before my demise, my friend is going to want his coin back, and it will cost him dearly.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
I see your point, re the collecting thoughts of some. I think we all have collectibles that only we know about-- art, and bronzes for me and my family, that is displayed in our home, but not shared with others. And if the cost is fair( for the rental), and the coin is a monster, sure.
I think it is Registry, internet and attendance at coin shows that has increased the desire to share. Before these events, many of us had no communication about our collections except with the dealers who sold them to us.
Sure! Only because, 1. Plenty of room in our house for Saintguru. 2. His investing advise is priceless. 3. I'm sure he has a car that would look great in our driveway.
And speaking of saintguru... Has anybody ever noticed the uncanny resemblance between him and Mark Cuban (the billionaire Dallas Mav's owner)?
I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that.
PASS. Seems like a very silly headache to me. Something that would just sit in a SDB and never ever ever come out. Why would I take up valuable space in my SDB for something like that...something that isn't really mine.
I'm afraid of no one...this has nothing to do with SG.
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64 Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
As I write the words, gentle readers, Longscre is weeping because he is tapping out his response on a Kindle. It is nice, but I prefer the old fashioned books. I am also drafting my resolutions, which include participating more on the boards.
As for this thread, there would be no fun because you could not share the coin. I would pass.
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>Why don't I simply forgo the actual purchase and just say that I have such a coin, and then never prove it to anyone? >>
Well, for one thing, that would be dishonest. Do people here really do that? I have always assumed that when people say they own a coin, they really do.
I guess some collectors do get satisfaction from possessing the coins in their collection. Some do not unless they can show it off and/or make money on it. That is what I have learned from this thread.
<< <i>I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that. >>
Dude, this is a fantasy. Get a clue. It ain't real life.
We call that "permanent loan" except there is "never" a gag order that goes with it.
Yes. I very much appreciate having things on permanent loan and would love to have the 1964 clad quarter under these conditions. I'd prefer to own it outright and be able to show it off but just seeing it would be nearly enough. Just having it displayed with my clad quarters would be a hoot even if no one else knew.
<< <i>I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that. >>
Dude, this is a fantasy. Get a clue. It ain't real life. >>
I know that, but even in fantasies my friends aren't that generous.
<< <i>I'll have you all know that I'm scintillating company. >>
I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
<< <i>I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that. >>
Dude, this is a fantasy. Get a clue. It ain't real life. >>
I know that, but even in fantasies my friends aren't that generous.
>>
All my friends are saints.
None of them have loaned me any $100,000 coins yet though.
I'm a bit surprised at some of the answers but i guess i shouldn't be, given the ultra-independent nature of a lot of people in this hobby. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but as for me, i would love to be able to take out a rarity every i get to the SDB and twirl it around in the light. By the way, while we're hypothesizing, i would pick a 1917 proof Buffalo because then i would be the one person alive that knows that it exists (and sorry, no i am not convinced by the one in the SEGS holder).
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
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That's a dealkiller for me. If I can't display it, brag about it, share it, or sell it, then pretty much all the joy has gone out of the equation for me and I'm still out a boatload of money. Sure, I can privately admire it, but if I am gonna do that sort of thing, I'll just go to a museum and look at their stuff without having to purchase it.
This sounds like those perhaps apocryphal tales about famous stolen art masterpieces hanging in the secret galleries of uber-rich, corrupt collectors. I fail to see the point of it. Yeah, OK, so let's say you've got Rembrandt's Storm on the Sea of Galilee hanging in your basement vault, but only you can stare at it. After a while, where's the joy?
PS- dinner with StainGuru might have been interesting, though. If it were an extended visit, he'd be sleeping on the hardwood floor in the living room where I have this computer, as we have no spare bedroom and don't even have a couch anymore. There is the cat-clawed recliner, though. He could fight the dog for that.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>Good test of people's collecting motives.
That's a dealkiller for me. If I can't display it, brag about it, share it, or sell it, then pretty much all the joy has gone out of the equation for me and I'm still out a boatload of money. Sure, I can privately admire it, but if I am gonna do that sort of thing, I'll just go to a museum and look at their stuff without having to purchase it.
This sounds like those perhaps apocryphal tales about famous stolen art masterpieces hanging in the secret galleries of uber-rich, corrupt collectors. I fail to see the point of it. Yeah, OK, so let's say you've got Rembrandt's Storm on the Sea of Galilee hanging in your basement vault, but only you can stare at it. After a while, where's the joy?
PS- dinner with StainGuru might have been interesting, though. If it were an extended visit, he'd be sleeping on the hardwood floor in the living room where I have this computer, as we have no spare bedroom and don't even have a couch anymore. There is the cat-clawed recliner, though. He could fight the dog for that. >>
I would expect that those uber rich corrupt collectors get a thrill out of owning something that others would like to have. They probably are also connected enough to dispose of it secretly to a like minded person if they choose to. The artworks are likely one of a kind whereas the coins mite be one of a kind or one a few. Do you suppose that RYK has dibs on a 33 DE?
I'd do the deal. I figure that at some point before my demise, my friend is going to want his coin back, and it will cost him dearly.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
I see your point, re the collecting thoughts of some. I think we all have
collectibles that only we know about-- art, and bronzes for me and my family, that is
displayed in our home, but not shared with others. And if the cost is fair( for the rental), and the coin is a
monster, sure.
I think it is Registry, internet and attendance at coin shows that has increased the desire to share. Before these
events, many of us had no communication about our collections except with the dealers who sold them to us.
define "fraction"
Wondercoin
Be careful Andy ... that is what Hawaii 5 0 episodes are all about!
Wondercoin
And speaking of saintguru...
Has anybody ever noticed the uncanny resemblance between him and Mark Cuban (the billionaire Dallas Mav's owner)?
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
I'd say maybe if I could hole it.
I'm afraid of no one...this has nothing to do with SG.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
K
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
<< <i>RYK: Have you contracted the dreaded LHPWS disease?
[LHPWS = Longacre Hypothetical Posts Withdrawl Syndrome] >>
As I write the words, gentle readers, Longscre is weeping because he is tapping out his response on a Kindle. It is nice, but I prefer the old fashioned books. I am also drafting my resolutions, which include participating more on the boards.
As for this thread, there would be no fun because you could not share the coin. I would pass.
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>Why don't I simply forgo the actual purchase and just say that I have such a coin, and then never prove it to anyone? >>
Well, for one thing, that would be dishonest. Do people here really do that? I have always assumed that when people say they own a coin, they really do.
I guess some collectors do get satisfaction from possessing the coins in their collection. Some do not unless they can show it off and/or make money on it. That is what I have learned from this thread.
<< <i>I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that. >>
Dude, this is a fantasy. Get a clue. It ain't real life.
<< <i>it gets sold back to him or his estate at your purchase price upon your departure from the earthly forum. >>
If I outlive the seller, can I keep it?
Pass.
Yes. I very much appreciate having things on permanent loan and would love to have
the 1964 clad quarter under these conditions. I'd prefer to own it outright and be able
to show it off but just seeing it would be nearly enough. Just having it displayed with
my clad quarters would be a hoot even if no one else knew.
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<< <i>it gets sold back to him or his estate at your purchase price upon your departure from the earthly forum. >>
If I outlive the seller, can I keep it?
Yes. But only if he doesn't demand it back for his estate on his deathbed.
Of course ownership might be mentioned in his will and the estate would
expect it back.
Also don't like things heldover my head.
but in this fantasy I dont actually own the coin and cannot actually say its part of my collection.
i would purposely break the rules just to meet the Guru
Ed. S.
(EJS)
<< <i>Why don't I simply forgo the actual purchase and just say that I have such a coin, and then never prove it to anyone? >>
BINGO.
Y'all wouldn't BELIEVE the collection I have!
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<< <i>it gets sold back to him or his estate at your purchase price upon your departure from the earthly forum. >>
If I outlive the seller, can I keep it?
Yes. But only if he doesn't demand it back for his estate on his deathbed.
Of course ownership might be mentioned in his will and the estate would
expect it back. >>
Too many durn loopholes or I'd buy all of your guys' collections
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<< <i>I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that. >>
Dude, this is a fantasy. Get a clue. It ain't real life. >>
I know that, but even in fantasies my friends aren't that generous.
Happy New Year to you.
<< <i>Get rid of the SaintGuru clause, and I'd take it. >>
<< <i>I'll have you all know that I'm scintillating company.
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
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<< <i>I don't have any friends who are dumb enough to give me lifetime rental of a $100K coin for a hundreds bucks. Alas, I wish I did but they are all smarter than that. >>
Dude, this is a fantasy. Get a clue. It ain't real life. >>
I know that, but even in fantasies my friends aren't that generous.
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All my friends are saints.
None of them have loaned me any $100,000 coins yet though.
I'm happy to be a the guinea pig with a 1964 Peace dollar. PM with offers
But if I had to insure the coin as part of the deal, I would probably pass, it wouldn't be worth it.
By the way, while we're hypothesizing, i would pick a 1917 proof Buffalo because then i would be the one person alive that knows that it exists (and sorry, no i am not convinced by the one in the SEGS holder).
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.