Is This Really a F15?

LeeBone · December 19, 2011 3:52AM

And, NO, not the fighter plane...

This coin...
I mean, I know it`s not my series AND it`s graded by our host but to my eye it looks better (detailswise), yes?
Agreed, obviously cleaned.

1878-CC Half

commoncents05 · December 19, 2011 3:58AM

Looks slightly net graded due to an old cleaning.

-Paul

Patches · December 19, 2011 3:59AM

Maybe VF-20 from a wear standpoint, but I don't find the dipping attractive at all...in fact quite negative. F-15 to me seems on par for the coin. A coin in Fine/VF shouldn't look mint state in my opinion.

Moldnut · December 19, 2011 4:21AM

looks like Tommy went out and got his shine box

shorecoll · December 19, 2011 5:01AM

I would agree it's a net graded VF, but ...show me your better one!

I do know where a nice AU is, but I doubt it will show up in the pops in my lifetime.

MilkmanDan · December 19, 2011 5:31AM

I saw this coin the other day and it really bummed me out. I've been hunting for a 78-CC half and with the population already so low, its such a shame to see one like this. Totally unattractive to me. Grade doesn't matter to me, because I wouldn't buy a low grade coin that looks like that.

BillJones · December 19, 2011 5:50AM

It's a net grade from VF-20. There is nothing with doing that in grades like this so long as the coin has not been whizzed or polished.

Looking at "Trends" $2,999 looks high, but then I have never been a player in any CC material except Morgan Dollars. Maybe that's what it is really worth, but I've to see some auction results to confirm that.

coolest · December 19, 2011 6:03AM

I think when you cant see most of the letters of LIBERTY that it is difficult to grade above Fine

BillJones · December 19, 2011 6:14AM

<< <i>I think when you cant see most of the letters of LIBERTY that it is difficult to grade above Fine >>

It all depends upon the strike and the surfaces. The reverse of this piece looks to be VF. The gown lines give the same impression.

The "full LIBERTY" for a Fine guideline provides a baseline for beginning graders. Some brach mint and even some Philadelphia mint coins had strike issues that negate those guidelines although I'l grant you that enough people have been conditioned to expect the "full LIBERTY" to make the same of such items harder. Still of you are Carson City mint specialist, you know more than most collectors about how these coins come. With that knowledge, you will know more about strike vs. wear issues.

Lucanus · December 19, 2011 6:18AM

Should be in a genuine VF details holder.

Doug

rec78 · December 19, 2011 3:09PM

Is This Really a F15? Yes.

Yukoncornelius1 · December 19, 2011 4:48PM

It's either a F-12 or a F-15, the main problem is the coin has been cleaned and looks terrible so it should be slabbed as a geniune coin.

Is This Really a F15?

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