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JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    That's what it says!
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't collect this series ...but judging from your, not so great, scans, I would return it for a "Grade Review"
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    One word...image
    ......Larry........image
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not mine, just saw it cruising ebay,....cert # checks out on PCGS site.....Im confused
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another undergraded coin. Looks full bands to me. image
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what is the deal with this? i am confused too.
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    PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Switched coin?

    Pics of the "coin" from Heritage auction in 2007.
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    or switched or copied lable ?????
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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,374 ✭✭✭✭
    same coin as Placid is showing (just a lower quality pic, or more likely a scan)

    www.brunkauctions.com

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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    ...or just a worse photo/scan of the current coin!!!

    It's clearly the SAME COIN! How else do you get those EXACT toning patterns???
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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,374 ✭✭✭✭
    i'm voting legit and properly graded

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see what is so confusing about it. Does a coin have to be white to be 66???

    I'll say it again.....toning should have NOTHING to do with grading!!!!!

    Edited to say...I like the coin.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess this would be a 67 at NGCimage

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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    there is no detail showing on the wings, and bands at all....maybe its just the pic, but
    it looks well circ'd
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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that's the same coin, that seller is potentially leaving a lot of money on the table with those bad scans. Of course, some of my favorite eBay sellers have very bad pictures. image
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>I guess this would be a 67 at NGC<<<

    No, 68 with a *!image
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    must be the photos. it's perfectly acceptable to have natural toning, but you have to admit those photos make it look heavily circulated.
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it is just the toning hiding detail.
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    commacomma Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭
    What's so confusing? Why can't that be a 66?
    Also, the pics you have and the heritage pics are the same coin...
    I'm confused about the confusion...
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    EricSanEricSan Posts: 889
    Looks like the same coin to me. The Heritage photo is better focused, better lit, and has the contrast punched up so the surface details are more clear.
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Same coin, bad images in the OP.
    I didn't really mind the OP images, I was assuming it was poor images.
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    SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    the op's image is horrible. I bet that coin rocks in hand.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nice coin

    finding mercs with those surfaces are quite rare

    if it is for sale, gimme a pm
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe that this coin was on ebay....don't know if I can find out what it went for or not. Will check.

    Edited to add that I did not have coin on my watch list, so I don't know what it went for.
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    PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    I'm 99% sure this is the same coin as the Heritage pics. The toning pattern is identical. It's just a very poor photograph IMO.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe that this coin was on ebay >>



    linky 1

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    appears to not have sold via ebay
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,524 ✭✭✭✭
    Exactly the same coin and slab. This fellow is such a lousy photographer he oughta just use the Heritage photo's.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally sold at Heritage for $195.

    Pix are not great but these are a little better. I like it.
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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I can believe it. The photos are terrible, but it does look like it has the potential of being properly graded.
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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hmmm..... need to send it to me for verificationimage
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't eye appeal still a grading factor? Sorry, but that coin is ugly.

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    CopperguyCopperguy Posts: 160
    some thing is wrong here
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    The two images are the same coin. I suspect it looks MUCH better in hand.


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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    That is the same coin. Technically it may be an MS66 but the toning appears very dark and the EBay photo doesn't do it favors.
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