My first submission - Grades In First Post!

CircOnly · December 2, 2011 1:46PM

Well, I have been collecting Barber halves in F-VF for a small amount of time now, and I figured it was time to put my grading to the test. Most of these coins are common, but I really enjoy this series, and I wanted to use this as a learning experience. I have few more raw sitting in my Dansco waiting for plastic tombs, but I figured 8 was enough for my first time submitting.

1) 1898-S Bought from a dealer at the Pitt ANA. The dealer warned me he felt it was a VG10 coin, and I trust his expertise. I just like the coin so much I wanted to take the shot at an F-12
2) 1899 Bought from another forum member. This is a strong F15 coin in my opinion.
3) 1902 Bought from the same forum member. A very crusty piece that should make F15 on it's worst day. I hope for a VF20.
4) 1903-S Again, from the same member. A lighter coin with good detail. I expect a VF20 grade but would not be surprised with a VF25 grade.
5) 1905-S Another raw purchase from the Pitt ANA. I feel this coin has a strong chance at an F15, but wouldn't be disappointed with an F12 grade.
6) 1908 A raw purchase from the Philly Whitman show this year. I think it has a good chance at VF20.
7) 1910-S Bought from the same forum member as mentioned above. This coin has all the best qualities in a F-VF Barber half. I would like a VF20, but I feel it's a strong F15.
8) 1913-D Bought from the same forum member above, I belive this coin should get a VF20, but wouldn't be surprised if it got a F15.

As always, grades are subjective, and I plan on absorbing as much as I can out of this experience. Of course if I get a body bag, it will go back in the Dansco as if it never took the tip to California in the first place. I will post the grades, as soon as I get them.

Order #20556922 / Submission #4452218
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 24062357 6482 1898-S 50C USA F15
2 1 24062358 6483 1899 50C USA VF25
3 1 24062359 6492 1902 50C USA VF20
4 1 24062360 6497 1903-S 50C USA Genuine - Poor Details (98 - Damage or Tooling)
5 1 24062361 6503 1905-S 50C USA F15
6 1 24062362 6512 1908 50C USA VF20
7 1 24062363 6520 1910-S 50C USA VF30
8 1 24062364 6528 1913-D 50C USA F15

MFH · December 2, 2011 1:54PM

Justin,

Best of luck with your grades.

Here you are getting your raw coins holdered
and I'm getting my holdered coins cracked out
for the Dansco.

CircOnly · December 2, 2011 1:57PM

I know I know...and like I have said a million times, I wish you wouldn't crack that 05-O.

MFH · December 2, 2011 2:08PM

A dealer friend who sells Barbers - was telling me he had 120 Halves come into his store
and he sent them off to PCGS ... one came back ... 1905-O in XF 40. He disn't realize its
rarity and just sold it on eBay within 20 minutes of listing it as a BIN at $475. I think he got ill
when I told him the coin should easily reach $1250 in 40.

The 05-O I own has yet to be cracked out ... one of these days...

Boom · December 2, 2011 5:43PM

Best of luck to you.

ricko · December 2, 2011 11:00PM

Good luck... let us know how it goes... Cheers, RickO

CircOnly · December 29, 2011 8:06AM

Grades are in! I'm a little bummed about the 03-S. When it arrives I will have to inspect it a little closer. I might have not seen something they saw. Overall I am pretty happy with the grades.

STONE · December 29, 2011 8:11AM

You should be quite pleased with those results.
1 BB/Genny out of 8 isn't terrible.
Plus, no coins went below your estimated grades!

astrorat · December 29, 2011 8:16AM

It seems that you have a conservative eye which is a good place to be. Well done!

On the 1903-S ... don't feel too bad, sometimes tooling is tough to spot.

NotSure · December 29, 2011 8:16AM

<< <i>Grades are in! I'm a little bummed about the 03-S. When it arrives I will have to inspect it a little closer. I might have not seen something they saw. Overall I am pretty happy with the grades. >>

I think your eye was pretty darn good! You called a few of them right on, and called 'em about as close as you can on the others....though, I wonder what went on with the '03-S? If your eyes were that good, as to call the grades you got, I'd be a bit surprised that you wouldn't see the damage or tooling.

Overall, you did pretty darn good, and your grading is right up there!!! Congrats for both...the grades, AND for having a good eye!

jdimmick · December 29, 2011 8:33AM

actually , your results were quite good, tells me you have a decent eye at least with barbers, and with a little more experience you be better than about 80% of the collecting public. If anything , your eye tends to be a bit on the conservative side which is actually a good thing as it will usually lead to better than expected results and less chance of getting buried in borderline coins.

CircOnly · December 29, 2011 8:41AM

Thanks for all the comments. I really can't take all the credit for grading these coins raw. The forum member I bought some of them from really has an eye for these as well and really knows what I am looking for in these coins. A big kudos goes to Walkerguy21D (Greg).

123cents · December 29, 2011 8:47AM

Great grades. Congratulations!

DennisH · December 29, 2011 8:57AM

You did great in a couple of ways; congrats!
Buying from Greg was one of them.

bosco5041 · December 29, 2011 9:19AM

good eye grading, Barbers are a great collector coin and pretty easy to grade.

seanq · December 29, 2011 9:44AM

Check the rim of the '03-S, I had a couple of modern(ish) rainbow toners come back ungraded due to tooling and on further inspection I found they had deep cuts in the rim which barely showed when viewing the coin straight-on.

Sean Reynolds

lkeigwin · December 29, 2011 9:48AM

Impressive! Ownership usually adds a grade or two but you kept it honest. Conservative, even. Congrats, Justin.
Lance.

CircOnly · December 29, 2011 10:46AM

Thanks, Sean, that's one of the places I need to teach myself to look more often. I always forget coins have a third side.

Lance, I was trying to be realistic with the grades. I had nightmares they would all come back in BBs! I'm not sure why I was so off on the 10-S either. That one will also get a closer look when I get it back.

Peacemonkey · December 29, 2011 1:35PM

Nice results but your sellers coins just got more expensive for future purchases.

Peacemonkey · December 29, 2011 1:37PM

Im curious about your coin that detailed to poor. You had it as high as 25. Thats a large drop, what got it the poor details? Was the tooling that good?

fivecents · December 29, 2011 2:00PM

Great results for you first submisson (or even for your 100th submisson). You have a good grading eye.

RunnersDad · December 29, 2011 3:04PM

Congratulations, sounds like you had a very solid submission!

Walkerguy21D · December 30, 2011 12:22AM

Looks pretty good, Justin - congratulations!
Let's see some pics of that 03-S when you get a chance, and we'll work something out.

Greg

MikeInFL · December 30, 2011 1:24AM

They say ownership adds a point -- but apparently not for you.

Looks like you did as good as or better than your predictions on all but one of your coins.

Well done & congrats on the grades....Mike

CircOnly · January 2, 2012 6:19AM

<< <i>Im curious about your coin that detailed to poor. You had it as high as 25. Thats a large drop, what got it the poor details? Was the tooling that good? >>

It is not a poor details coin with tooling to make it look like a VF coin. I am not sure why they describe it that way. I am anxious to see what the holder says.

<< <i>Looks pretty good, Justin - congratulations!
Let's see some pics of that 03-S when you get a chance, and we'll work something out.

Greg >>

Greg, when I get it back from PCGS, I'll crack it and give it a good looking over. Then just put it back in the Dansco.

My first submission - Grades In First Post!

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