I picked up a roll this weekend at my Trevose show. It was a totally original roll, priced fairly cheap. I did a deal with the other dealer to open them. If it was a real BU 83P roll, they were mine at half of GS bid - $370. If it was not a BU roll, no deal.
The roll was real. I paid the $370. I put them on CCE asking full bid ($740) and sold them in under 5 minutes.
I have no idea why the other dealer only asked half of bid. I would have paid a lot more as I knew I could flip it quickly.
Small world. I believe we are talking about the same person then. My dealer friend was telling me about some of items he bought and sold this past week. And this was one of them. I dont know much about moderns so I was curious if that price was legit.
I bought my 83 - P qrt. rolls 10 years ago for $280.ea. roll.. ,, still have em,, have a couple of 82-P qrt. rolls too.. and a couple of 82, 83 P rolls of dimes ta boot,, and 2- 82-D qrt. rolls also,, all unc.. ... bought most of my gold @ $280.. an ozee... ... Bought many of Plat. Proof 1/2 ozee's for $325 ea..... still have em... ... Geezzzee I wish I was alive and buying rolls back in the twenties...... I seen it then and still do now,, No Brainer,, These rolls are only going to increase in value as time goes on... and so far,, I ve been right.... ,,
<< <i>I bought my 83 - P qrt. rolls 10 years ago for $280.ea. roll.. ,, still have em,, have a couple of 82-P qrt. rolls too.. and a couple of 82, 83 P rolls of dimes ta boot,, and 2- 82-D qrt. rolls also,, all unc.. ... bought most of my gold @ $280.. an ozee... ... Bought many of Plat. Proof 1/2 ozee's for $325 ea..... still have em... ... Geezzzee I wish I was alive and buying rolls back in the twenties...... I seen it then and still do now,, No Brainer,, These rolls are only going to increase in value as time goes on... and so far,, I ve been right.... ,, >>
Then you die and your family cashes in the dime/quarter rolls for face...
I've owned a couple of PGCS 66s that I didn't care for much. Most are really mushy. The coin in my collection is an early strike with a strong 66 obverse, great light Dansco toning, and a single mark on the breast on the reverse which keeps it in a 65 PCGS holder. I'd love to own my coin without that mark.
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No mint sets that year, plus few people saved them in uncirculated condition.
I think they would be a risky speculation, though, because you never know when a bag or two might suddenly appear on the market. >>
About 80,000 of these survive. A bag or two would depress the price only briefly and might not affect the price of high grades at all. Most bags of these contained no gems at all.
I think what will be interesting is when collectors begin noticing that these come with two distinct reverses; a type "c" and a type "d". The type "d" comprised about 20% of mintage but only 10% of the survivors in unc. I believe the supply will effectively be cut by 10% while the demand doubles.
I like nice choice examples of this coin a lot. Most rolls will have 15 or 20 nice choice examples and are a steal. About a quarter of the rolls will have no choice examples and should be sold. True gems are quite scarce.
I enjoyed opening the original 1983-P quarter roll this afternoon. I pulled out a half dozen or so "gemmy" specimens. As CK previously stated, true gem examples are very tough to locate. The "problem" with buying these rolls is always what to do with the 25-30 BU - Ch BU specimens that are left after you "cherrypick" some nice ones for your personal collection. The "one at a time" on ebay thing is a lot of work!
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I Like em,,, These earliar clad coins in the higher Gem states are the highly collectables for the future generation coin collectors.. many of us may not see the days,, But,, like I said before,, these are No Brainers... These are "Real" circulating coinage,, just like the old silver coins of yesterdays... What are the survival rates in high mint state for many of them ???,, I'll bet not as many as some of the older silver circulating coins,,, People back in the late sixties, seventies, & eighties pretty much discounted these as any kind of a collectable coinage.... I,, like most, evan today, Hate clad/token coinage.. See them as worthless crap that our Big Brother government has forced upon us,, But,, they are still our circulating monies... What are we,???...... Were "coin collectors"...
<< <i>I Like em,,, These earliar clad coins in the higher Gem states are the highly collectables for the future generation coin collectors.. many of us may not see the days,, But,, like I said before,, these are No Brainers... These are "Real" circulating coinage,, just like the old silver coins of yesterdays... What are the survival rates in high mint state for many of them ???,, I'll bet not as many as some of the older silver circulating coins,,, People back in the late sixties, seventies, & eighties pretty much discounted these as any kind of a collectable coinage.... I,, like most, evan today, Hate clad/token coinage.. See them as worthless crap that our Big Brother government has forced upon us,, But,, they are still our circulating monies... What are we,???...... Were "coin collectors"... >>
If this is any indication I got a bag of '82-P quarters from the First National Bank of East Chicago (IN) with great effort. When I finally got to speak to the vault manager he told me he had called around including in Chicago to see if any of his cohorts had ever heard of saving clad coins and he said nobody had ever had a request for clad dimes or quarters.
In those days nobody cared and the handful that did got their coins from mint sets. People just didn't seem to even notice when the mint sets were discontinued. I'd bet most of the clads had fewer than 40,000 coins set aside each year though it went way up in '82 because of the cessation of mint sets.
You simply can't find singles, rolls, or bags of the old clads and soon the mint sets will be gone because they are so unloved and the coins end up in circulation or corroding in someone's garage.
You Know,, I'll bet there are way more collectors out there that have modern silver coinage ( Dime a dozen) than you'll see that have ANY high grade clad coins... But,,, as the old saying goes,, You can have one of only anything,, but if nobody wants it,...... it's worthless... I'll continue to collect what I want,, thats what it's all about anyway..
No doubt, 82 and 83 were very special years however, finding original rolls for any of the mid 60's and 70's clad quarters can be quite challenging. Yes, there are a lot out there but they are "put together" rolls from mint sets as evidenced by the "slid marks" from the mint set packaging equipment.
And, unfortunately, there were no Type B reverses reported in 1969, 1970, 1971, or 1972 mint sets.
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I picked up a roll this weekend at my Trevose show. It was a totally original roll, priced fairly cheap. I did a deal with the other dealer to open them. If it was a real BU 83P roll, they were mine at half of GS bid - $370. If it was not a BU roll, no deal.
The roll was real. I paid the $370. I put them on CCE asking full bid ($740) and sold them in under 5 minutes.
I have no idea why the other dealer only asked half of bid. I would have paid a lot more as I knew I could flip it quickly.
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My guilty pleasure was buying that roll as it was described as no question fresh.
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So what would a MS65 one bring that people are willing to pay nearly a grand for a roll
<< <i>I bought my 83 - P qrt. rolls 10 years ago for $280.ea. roll.. ,, still have em,, have a couple of 82-P qrt. rolls too.. and a couple of 82, 83 P rolls of dimes ta boot,, and 2- 82-D qrt. rolls also,, all unc..
Then you die and your family cashes in the dime/quarter rolls for face...
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<< <i>Why do these command such a premium? >>
George Orwell wrote a book called 1984 and everyone got paranoid, I think
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<< <i>Why do these command such a premium? >>
No mint sets that year, plus few people saved them in uncirculated condition.
I think they would be a risky speculation, though, because you never know when a bag or two might suddenly appear on the market.
I like the 1983-S proof better - shinier, lower mintage and much cheaper!
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<< <i>Why do these command such a premium? >>
No mint sets that year, plus few people saved them in uncirculated condition.
I think they would be a risky speculation, though, because you never know when a bag or two might suddenly appear on the market.
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About 80,000 of these survive. A bag or two would depress the price only briefly and
might not affect the price of high grades at all. Most bags of these contained no gems
at all.
I think what will be interesting is when collectors begin noticing that these come with
two distinct reverses; a type "c" and a type "d". The type "d" comprised about 20%
of mintage but only 10% of the survivors in unc. I believe the supply will effectively be
cut by 10% while the demand doubles.
I like nice choice examples of this coin a lot. Most rolls will have 15 or 20 nice choice
examples and are a steal. About a quarter of the rolls will have no choice examples
and should be sold. True gems are quite scarce.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
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<< <i>A few pics.
Beautiful.
This is nearly as clean as they come though the strike could be improved a little. As nice
as it is I prefer your '82-P.
<< <i>I Like em,,, These earliar clad coins in the higher Gem states are the highly collectables for the future generation coin collectors.. many of us may not see the days,, But,, like I said before,, these are No Brainers... These are "Real" circulating coinage,, just like the old silver coins of yesterdays... What are the survival rates in high mint state for many of them ???,, I'll bet not as many as some of the older silver circulating coins,,, People back in the late sixties, seventies, & eighties pretty much discounted these as any kind of a collectable coinage.... I,, like most, evan today, Hate clad/token coinage.. See them as worthless crap that our Big Brother government has forced upon us,, But,, they are still our circulating monies... What are we,???...... Were "coin collectors"...
If this is any indication I got a bag of '82-P quarters from the First National Bank of
East Chicago (IN) with great effort. When I finally got to speak to the vault manager
he told me he had called around including in Chicago to see if any of his cohorts had
ever heard of saving clad coins and he said nobody had ever had a request for clad
dimes or quarters.
In those days nobody cared and the handful that did got their coins from mint sets.
People just didn't seem to even notice when the mint sets were discontinued. I'd bet
most of the clads had fewer than 40,000 coins set aside each year though it went
way up in '82 because of the cessation of mint sets.
You simply can't find singles, rolls, or bags of the old clads and soon the mint sets will
be gone because they are so unloved and the coins end up in circulation or corroding
in someone's garage.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
And, unfortunately, there were no Type B reverses reported in 1969, 1970, 1971, or 1972 mint sets.
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