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Should dealers be able to sell counterfits on PCGS'Collector Corner?

See this link the dealer claim its counterfit but still should they be able to sell counterfit on a PCGS own website. Am i missing something here?

Link to Counterfit Coin

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it disclosed upfront, straight up dog its a counterfeit,
    alot of people collect that stuff,

    I sold a 69 bug sight unseen to a guy in west LA a year or so back
    he was really weird, and asked over the phone and in emails if the
    numbers and VINs were correct and this and that was right, did'nt
    even care what it looked liked or how it ran, MADE ME think what
    kind of scam this guy was pulling, (the bug needed a rear moter
    seal and looked like its age and then some) and was stated so in
    the AD, I ALMOST cancelled the sale untill he told me IT was gonna
    be turned into a 1955 Porche James Dean Kitcar.

    Steve
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I fail to see a problem, especially considering the coin is stamped COPY.
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    I missed the word copy. I guess i don't have an issue with it as long as its stamped copy. I thought they were selling an unstamped conterfit coin
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    IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    Having COPY stamped into it makes it OK. The price seems a bit steep for what appears to be a modern replica.
    Now if it was a copy made in the mid-1800's, some of the copper people would be all over it.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't PCGS slab a counterfeit 1804 silver dollar that was an electrotype?

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    Cant be any worse those D. Carr " coins" !
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    PerryHall, I agree with you (yet again).

    Eric
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They should also be allowed to sell hissy fits and conniption fits too!image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,984 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What is wrong with collecting known counterfeits? >>



    Technically it is illegal to own them although in this case, with a pre-1792 non-federal issue, you might not have a problem. Never the less the Secret Service can hassle you for owning counterfeits if they decide to do so.

    I am a supporter of the Hobby Protection Act. Given that I’m not a fan of offerings like this, but then again I’m not a potential customer either. After owning only Gallery Mint item that did nothing for me, I decided that I won’t collect copies of the real thing. If I can’t own the real thing, I’ll pass.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should collectors be able to sell coins on PCGS's Collector Corner?
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    So as long as the fact that it is a counterfeit is revealed, what's the problem with allowing it? I think counterfeit and altered coins make excellent learning materials provided that they are priced fairly.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,984 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So as long as the fact that it is a counterfeit is revealed, what's the problem with allowing it? I think counterfeit and altered coins make excellent learning materials provided that they are priced fairly. >>



    They might indentified as counterfeit on this listing, but if it does not say "COPY" on the piece, who knows how it will be listed later?
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,827 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>So as long as the fact that it is a counterfeit is revealed, what's the problem with allowing it? I think counterfeit and altered coins make excellent learning materials provided that they are priced fairly. >>



    They might indentified as counterfeit on this listing, but if it does not say "COPY" on the piece, who knows how it will be listed later? >>



    All coins can be misrepresented during a future sale. A business strike can be polished and sold as a proof, a silver dollar can be misattributed as a rare VAM, a tooled or cleaned coin can be sold as being problem free, an AU58 can be listed as an MS65, etc. The possibility of misrepresenting a coin, real or fake, in a future sale are endless.

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