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Half Dime Attribution Challenge

BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
the images here are of a low grade capped bust half dime. I have an attribution in mind for this one,
but wanted to see what others thought. If you are familiar with the series or just have the Logan-McCloskey
half dime book, give it a shot. I will share my thoughts on the attribution once others share their opinions.


Thanks!





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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
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    Edited for clarificiation: I PM-ed barndog that I also thought it was a 9.1; I was clapping in anticipation of him telling us he cherrypicked it image
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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Sadly my book is at work and I am hopeless without it. I know you wouldn't post it if it wasn't a high R. What's the story?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Ok... now with book firmly in hand and one cup of coffee flowing through veins... let's see...

    It's a Reverse T which makes it either an LM-8 which is an R3 or LM-9 which would be a wicked scarce R7. Now to the obverse...

    So it has to be either an Obverse 4 or an Obverse 2. Due to the wear some of the pick up points don't exist so let's see what is there...

    For the rarer LM-9 with Obverse 2:
    Dentil centered under upright of 1: check
    83 a little closer at top: check
    Right edge of 3 in line with center of dentil: check
    Hollow center stars: not able to determine due to condition
    S1 twice as close to dentils: not 100% sure
    S3 rotated CW: check
    S5 rotated CW: check
    S6 and 7 close: check
    S7 twice as close to dentils: check
    S8 twice as close to dentils: not able to determine due to condition
    S12 rotated CW: check
    S13 a little closer to dentils: check

    Looks pretty good to be a rare R7 LM-9.1 or 9.2... will look at die state in a minute. Let's see if we can rule out it being a more common LM-8 with Obverse 4 first:

    On the obverse 2 what jumps out at me is that S3 is repunched and points in between dentils whereas the example you posted points right at a dentil... I think this rules it out as an Obv 2

    So... it is an LM-9.1 or LM 9.2... which one... can we tell?

    It's hard to tell but it does not appear that the upper part of the "S2" is filled as it would be in a 9.2 so...

    I agree with the above posters that the coin is an example of an LM-9.1 which is at least in the book an R7 coin.

    Nice find for someone!
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've read the answers here and gotten some via PM. Glad to say that every one of them agreed: 100% consensus opinion, including mine, is 1832 LM-9.1

    The coin is not mine. It belongs to a fellow half dime collector.

    RichardShipp's analysis of obverse and reverse attribution factors was so spot on that I need not go into further detail. Great job image

    The biggest question that this coin posed to most was "is it a 9.1 or is it a 9.2?"

    In the earlier remarriage (LM-9.1), the upper loop of the second S in STATES is not filled. In the later remarriage (LM-9.2), the upper loop of the second S in STATES is filled.
    No big deal, right? Wrong. It is a big deal, since the 1832 LM-9.1 is an R-6 remarriage, meaning 13-30 examples are known or thought to exist. However, the 1832 LM-9.2
    is a solid R-7, meaning 4-12 examples extant. I am pretty sure that there are but four, maybe five examples known for the 1832 LM-9.2, so it is a strong R-7 (some might term
    it an R7+).

    So it seems that all who have responded via PM or posting here agree with my assessment: 1832 LM-9.1...upper loop of the second S in STATES not filled. I will gladly inform
    the coin's owner so he can record it properly.

    FYI, the following are images of my examples of these two remarriages. The first one is 1832 LM-9.1 PCGS AU55), the second is 1835 LM-9.2 (PCGS AU58):

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