Half Dime Attribution Challenge

Barndog

the images here are of a low grade capped bust half dime. I have an attribution in mind for this one,
but wanted to see what others thought. If you are familiar with the series or just have the Logan-McCloskey
half dime book, give it a shot. I will share my thoughts on the attribution once others share their opinions.


Thanks!

STONE

Edited for clarificiation: I PM-ed barndog that I also thought it was a 9.1; I was clapping in anticipation of him telling us he cherrypicked it

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richardshipp

Sadly my book is at work and I am hopeless without it. I know you wouldn't post it if it wasn't a high R. What's the story?

richardshipp

Ok... now with book firmly in hand and one cup of coffee flowing through veins... let's see...

It's a Reverse T which makes it either an LM-8 which is an R3 or LM-9 which would be a wicked scarce R7. Now to the obverse...

So it has to be either an Obverse 4 or an Obverse 2. Due to the wear some of the pick up points don't exist so let's see what is there...

For the rarer LM-9 with Obverse 2:
Dentil centered under upright of 1: check
83 a little closer at top: check
Right edge of 3 in line with center of dentil: check
Hollow center stars: not able to determine due to condition
S1 twice as close to dentils: not 100% sure
S3 rotated CW: check
S5 rotated CW: check
S6 and 7 close: check
S7 twice as close to dentils: check
S8 twice as close to dentils: not able to determine due to condition
S12 rotated CW: check
S13 a little closer to dentils: check

Looks pretty good to be a rare R7 LM-9.1 or 9.2... will look at die state in a minute. Let's see if we can rule out it being a more common LM-8 with Obverse 4 first:

On the obverse 2 what jumps out at me is that S3 is repunched and points in between dentils whereas the example you posted points right at a dentil... I think this rules it out as an Obv 2

So... it is an LM-9.1 or LM 9.2... which one... can we tell?

It's hard to tell but it does not appear that the upper part of the "S2" is filled as it would be in a 9.2 so...

I agree with the above posters that the coin is an example of an LM-9.1 which is at least in the book an R7 coin.

Nice find for someone!

Barndog

I've read the answers here and gotten some via PM. Glad to say that every one of them agreed: 100% consensus opinion, including mine, is 1832 LM-9.1

The coin is not mine. It belongs to a fellow half dime collector.

RichardShipp's analysis of obverse and reverse attribution factors was so spot on that I need not go into further detail. Great job

The biggest question that this coin posed to most was "is it a 9.1 or is it a 9.2?"

In the earlier remarriage (LM-9.1), the upper loop of the second S in STATES is not filled. In the later remarriage (LM-9.2), the upper loop of the second S in STATES is filled.
No big deal, right? Wrong. It is a big deal, since the 1832 LM-9.1 is an R-6 remarriage, meaning 13-30 examples are known or thought to exist. However, the 1832 LM-9.2
is a solid R-7, meaning 4-12 examples extant. I am pretty sure that there are but four, maybe five examples known for the 1832 LM-9.2, so it is a strong R-7 (some might term
it an R7+).

So it seems that all who have responded via PM or posting here agree with my assessment: 1832 LM-9.1...upper loop of the second S in STATES not filled. I will gladly inform
the coin's owner so he can record it properly.

FYI, the following are images of my examples of these two remarriages. The first one is 1832 LM-9.1 PCGS AU55), the second is 1835 LM-9.2 (PCGS AU58):