without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back.
The buyer of his 2005 W $5 AGE PF70 for only $177.50 seemed quite happy with his purchase.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
<< <i>without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back. >>
<< <i>without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back.
The buyer of his 2005 W $5 AGE PF70 for only $177.50 seemed quite happy with his purchase. >>
Ok, go ahead and buy his coins I dare you.
Oh, look he just listed 1878 7TF REV OF 78 NGC 65 Silver Dollar for $300 bucks. Greysheet 925/1000. What a deal!
<< <i>without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back.
The buyer of his 2005 W $5 AGE PF70 for only $177.50 seemed quite happy with his purchase. >>
Ok, go ahead and buy his coins I dare you.
Oh, look he just listed 1878 7TF REV OF 78 NGC 65 Silver Dollar for $300 bucks. Greysheet 925/1000. What a deal! >>
Low price is not enough reason to make an accusation of "hijacked account." It is reason to look for other red flags, I don't see them. I see a seller who doesn't know the value of his coins. I don't collect what he is listing. If he throws a half ounce AGE up for $600 me and paypal protection will be all over it.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
You are correct that these listings do seem suspicious. I was able to end and remove them for a coin policy violation and I forwarded the account name to the team who investigates hijacked accounts.
Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in keeping eBay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.
Jack, with all due respect, as I stated earlier, low price alone does not make an account hijacked. As your ebay rep reply stated, it makes it suspicious. Note that ebay pulled the listings for listing violations that I pointed out and not for low prices or a hijacked account. The point of my first post was to state that calling an account hijacked based strictly on low prices is not fair to any ebay seller. Soliciting forum member opinions on this particular seller by posing your concern as a question would have been much fairer to him or any other ebay seller under the circumstances. How would you feel if someone publicly accused your ebay account of being hijacked based soley on the prices you were selling for?
Nowhere in this thread is there good evidence that the account is hijacked - only an accusation. Members of this forum are great when it comes to questioning suspicious ebay listings and turning them over to ebay for action, if deemed necessary by ebay. We do however, need to take care it making public accusations without good cause. While low price is good cause to stimulate a discussion, search for other red flags, and forward to ebay for investigation it is not good cause to publicly lable a seller a thief.
It will be interesting to see if this ebay account is still active after a few days. That will indicate what further ebay investigation reveals. If they determine the account to be hijacked they will have done so on based on more than his prices were too low. If the account is pulled by ebay it will mean you made a pretty good guess. But keep in mind that a good guess is not good reason to publicly call a seller a thief. I still feel your title would have been more appropriate had it been followed by a question mark.
I have successfully purchased many coins on ebay that were priced too low.
All of us that participate in ebay fraud discussions (myself included) need to be considerate and careful with our accusations.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
I had my account hijacked. I watched in horror as it was happening. Luckily they hadn't changed my password, so I got ahold of customer service and we changed my password, and deleted all the bogus auctions. The acount may not be NARUed.
<< <i> low price alone does not make an account hijacked.
You know I really wish you'd stop pretending that's all I said. Put a sock in it! >>
You also said, in entirity, "photos don't match, etc."
Pictures I saw matched the description of what was listed. They did not however comply with ebay rule of showing entire slab. As far as "etc." goes I had no way of knowing what you were referring to. Your accusation boiled down to low pricing. Not a good basis to accuse someone of being a thief.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
<< <i>I had my account hijacked. I watched in horror as it was happening. Luckily they hadn't changed my password, so I got ahold of customer service and we changed my password, and deleted all the bogus auctions. The acount may not be NARUed. >>
Good point. He did manage to make the sale on the 1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 65 for $300. Will be interesting to see what kind of feedback he gets on that one. Account could very well be hijacked, but without proof it should be a question, not a statement of fact. Hopefully if there is proof, ebay will uncover it.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
As stated in my first post: "Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere."
Good catch indeed. The kind of evidence that should be presented before calling someone a crook. I'm not convinced, however that this proves the account is hijacked.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
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The buyer of his 2005 W $5 AGE PF70 for only $177.50 seemed quite happy with his purchase.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
<< <i>without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back. >>
<< <i>without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back.
The buyer of his 2005 W $5 AGE PF70 for only $177.50 seemed quite happy with his purchase. >>
Ok, go ahead and buy his coins I dare you.
Oh, look he just listed 1878 7TF REV OF 78 NGC 65 Silver Dollar for $300 bucks. Greysheet 925/1000. What a deal!
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<< <i>without better evidence you should probably post your title as a question rather than a statement. Low prices alone are not an indication of a hijacked account. Seller has good, recent feedback for similar products which indicate account is probably not hijacked. Seller is guilty of violating ebay coin and currency policy by not providing pics of full slab, front and back, and not providing certification number of graded coins. In one case he is guilty of keyword spamming by using PCGS in title when picture is of a raw coin. Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere. I see no good reason to believe it is a hijacked account. If I wanted one of his items I would not hesitate to purchase it knowing that paypal protection has my back.
The buyer of his 2005 W $5 AGE PF70 for only $177.50 seemed quite happy with his purchase. >>
Ok, go ahead and buy his coins I dare you.
Oh, look he just listed 1878 7TF REV OF 78 NGC 65 Silver Dollar for $300 bucks. Greysheet 925/1000. What a deal! >>
Low price is not enough reason to make an accusation of "hijacked account." It is reason to look for other red flags, I don't see them. I see a seller who doesn't know the value of his coins. I don't collect what he is listing. If he throws a half ounce AGE up for $600 me and paypal protection will be all over it.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Thanks for reporting these listings to us.
You are correct that these listings do seem suspicious. I was able to
end and remove them for a coin policy violation and I forwarded the
account name to the team who investigates hijacked accounts.
Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in keeping
eBay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.
Sincerely,
Judith
eBay Customer Support
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The old saying is definitely applicable here....If it's to good to be true...walk away & don't look back.
Nowhere in this thread is there good evidence that the account is hijacked - only an accusation. Members of this forum are great when it comes to questioning suspicious ebay listings and turning them over to ebay for action, if deemed necessary by ebay. We do however, need to take care it making public accusations without good cause. While low price is good cause to stimulate a discussion, search for other red flags, and forward to ebay for investigation it is not good cause to publicly lable a seller a thief.
It will be interesting to see if this ebay account is still active after a few days. That will indicate what further ebay investigation reveals. If they determine the account to be hijacked they will have done so on based on more than his prices were too low. If the account is pulled by ebay it will mean you made a pretty good guess. But keep in mind that a good guess is not good reason to publicly call a seller a thief. I still feel your title would have been more appropriate had it been followed by a question mark.
I have successfully purchased many coins on ebay that were priced too low.
All of us that participate in ebay fraud discussions (myself included) need to be considerate and careful with our accusations.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
You know I really wish you'd stop pretending that's all I said. Put a sock in it!
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<< <i> low price alone does not make an account hijacked.
You know I really wish you'd stop pretending that's all I said. Put a sock in it! >>
You also said, in entirity, "photos don't match, etc."
Pictures I saw matched the description of what was listed. They did not however comply with ebay rule of showing entire slab. As far as "etc." goes I had no way of knowing what you were referring to. Your accusation boiled down to low pricing. Not a good basis to accuse someone of being a thief.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
<< <i>I had my account hijacked. I watched in horror as it was happening. Luckily they hadn't changed my password, so I got ahold of customer service and we changed my password, and deleted all the bogus auctions. The acount may not be NARUed. >>
Good point. He did manage to make the sale on the 1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 65 for $300. Will be interesting to see what kind of feedback he gets on that one. Account could very well be hijacked, but without proof it should be a question, not a statement of fact. Hopefully if there is proof, ebay will uncover it.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 62
<< <i>Compare his 1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 65 with this coin.
1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 62 >>
Well there you go....good catch.
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<< <i>Compare his 1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 65 with this coin.
1878 7TF Rev of 78 NGC 62 >>
Well there you go....good catch. >>
As stated in my first post: "Many sellers don't use their own pictures, it's too easy to find them elswhere."
Good catch indeed. The kind of evidence that should be presented before calling someone a crook. I'm not convinced, however that this proves the account is hijacked.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
<< <i>Creep is also charging $50 shipping on a $79 Samsung camera. >>
appears to be a hijacked account
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.