Poll-Should PCGS use split grading as ANACs used to?

rec78 · August 30, 2011 4:17AM

I feel no but would like to know the majority consensus.

--Bob

TPRC · August 30, 2011 4:27AM

Split grades, add 10ths, + signs, * stars, green and gold beans, thus, 64.3+* /64.1 CAC (reverse only)....makes perfect sense.
If we are going to do this, why not go back to some of the older methods that made sense,such as...

AU details, minor porosity, pleasing overall, net xf.

devious · August 30, 2011 4:32AM

My honest opinion: Standardized grading AND use split grading, throw away pluses minuses stars, and all that other crap, and get back to the 70 scale or redo it to a 100 point scale. And most of all, throw out market grading and grade bumping. Either grade conditionally, or fail the original mission statement. My two cents.

relicsncoins · August 30, 2011 4:37AM

As much as I like ANACS photo certificates, I had to vote no. The entire price structure of coins would have to be changed. It's difficult enough to get two people to agree on a single grade, it would be near impossible with two grades for each coin.

JJ

IrishMikey · August 30, 2011 4:41AM

Emphatically not. Split grading, while perhaps useful when trying to "paint a picture"
of the overall appearance of the coin, does nothing except complicate the issue.

Consider three Morgan $ that would most likely all grade MS-65 with a single grade:

66 obverse, 64 reverse
65+ obverse, 67 reverse
65 obverse, 64+ reverse

Only the 2nd coin would be considered a high end 65, although the first coin might
actually be more appealing to most collectors. Coin 3 would be a hard sell without a
nice discount. In my opinion split grading would be a major step backwards.

Broadstruck · August 30, 2011 4:43AM

Sure lets rock the boat even more!

19Lyds · August 30, 2011 4:44AM

No.

It's rather pointless since the entire coin should be considered, not just one face or the other.

Broadstruck · August 30, 2011 4:47AM

NGC could then * one side or both... Heck CAC could sticker one side or both too

Aegis3 · August 30, 2011 4:51AM

I voted no, but I think that using a single numerical abbreviation as a grade is even worse.

LanLord · August 30, 2011 4:54AM

If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter?

Justacommeman · August 30, 2011 4:54AM

The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ

TAMU15 · August 30, 2011 4:59AM

<< I voted no, but I think that using a single numerical abbreviation as a grade is even worse. >>

lol so true

rec78 · August 30, 2011 5:04AM

<< If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter? >>

<< The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ >>

I have been collecting long before grading holders came along-I have never cared about grades on the holder--It's my opinion that counts.

Broadstruck · August 30, 2011 5:09AM

<< The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ

I have been collecting long before grading holders came along-I have never cared about grades on the holder--It's my opinion that counts. >>

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GRANDAM · August 30, 2011 5:10AM

OMG!!!!!!!!! I say NO, NO. a thousand times NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GrandAm

TheCoinGeezer · August 30, 2011 5:21AM

I voted no, for many of the reasons already listed here.
I would support a 100 point grading system but the Sheldon Scale is so ingrained in the collecting community that it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to implement it.
I would like to see honest grading, the end to the so-called "market grading", "+" and "*" designations and the CAC bean.
The CAC bean is a particular pet peeve of mine. I've been collecting coins for over 50 years and I can easily spot a coin that is a prime example of its grade.
To me, grading companies are invaluable for verifying the authenticity of a coin and they do an excellent job at it, particularly PCGS , whose lifetime guarantee provides much needed buyer confidence.
Slabbing was supposed to make sight unseen trading in coin fool proof. So far that hasn't occurred, at least in my neck of the woods.

Bankerbob56 · August 30, 2011 5:28AM

<< If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter? >>

I guess it depends on what time it is, AND how much I've had to drink!

Constantine · August 30, 2011 5:40AM

I just don't see how I can get excited about having a Morgan in a 64 but saying the reverse is a 65.

shorecoll · August 30, 2011 5:59AM

I like split grading, but I think maybe LanLord changed my mind. You'd have to calculate alcohol modifiers and all sorts of complicating factors.

golfer72 · August 30, 2011 11:01AM

PCGS will eventually do it. think of all the resubmissions. They just dont need it yet. Mark my words.

scottgardener · August 30, 2011 12:30PM

Split grading would just add to the chaos further. MS64/64+, with the back half of a green bean, for a coin that looks better on the reverse side but barely makes 64 on the obverse, for instance. Next we'll be noting that the rim is Genuine, not gradable.

Tiny · August 30, 2011 12:42PM

They should only if you can cut the coin in half and slab either the obverse or the reverse.
Coins are two sided and both sides make the whole grade.

golden · August 30, 2011 1:33PM

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

morgandollar1878 · August 30, 2011 1:41PM

No way.

Frankcoins · August 30, 2011 1:43PM

Certified grading is really to answer the question "what's it worth" rather than the technical grade. The market has NO interest in trying to rationalize the value of MS65/MS63 or MS64/MS65 split grades.

golfer72 · September 1, 2011 11:09AM

<< Certified grading is really to answer the question "what's it worth" rather than the technical grade. The market has NO interest in trying to rationalize the value of MS65/MS63 or MS64/MS65 split grades. >>

They will when PCGS starts grading them that way.

Poll-Should PCGS use split grading as ANACs used to?

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