Split grades, add 10ths, + signs, * stars, green and gold beans, thus, 64.3+* /64.1 CAC (reverse only)....makes perfect sense. If we are going to do this, why not go back to some of the older methods that made sense,such as...
AU details, minor porosity, pleasing overall, net xf.
My honest opinion: Standardized grading AND use split grading, throw away pluses minuses stars, and all that other crap, and get back to the 70 scale or redo it to a 100 point scale. And most of all, throw out market grading and grade bumping. Either grade conditionally, or fail the original mission statement. My two cents.
As much as I like ANACS photo certificates, I had to vote no. The entire price structure of coins would have to be changed. It's difficult enough to get two people to agree on a single grade, it would be near impossible with two grades for each coin.
JJ
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Emphatically not. Split grading, while perhaps useful when trying to "paint a picture" of the overall appearance of the coin, does nothing except complicate the issue.
Consider three Morgan $ that would most likely all grade MS-65 with a single grade:
Only the 2nd coin would be considered a high end 65, although the first coin might actually be more appealing to most collectors. Coin 3 would be a hard sell without a nice discount. In my opinion split grading would be a major step backwards.
The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ
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<< <i>If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter? >>
<< <i>The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ >>
I have been collecting long before grading holders came along-I have never cared about grades on the holder--It's my opinion that counts.
I voted no, for many of the reasons already listed here. I would support a 100 point grading system but the Sheldon Scale is so ingrained in the collecting community that it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to implement it. I would like to see honest grading, the end to the so-called "market grading", "+" and "*" designations and the CAC bean. The CAC bean is a particular pet peeve of mine. I've been collecting coins for over 50 years and I can easily spot a coin that is a prime example of its grade. To me, grading companies are invaluable for verifying the authenticity of a coin and they do an excellent job at it, particularly PCGS , whose lifetime guarantee provides much needed buyer confidence. Slabbing was supposed to make sight unseen trading in coin fool proof. So far that hasn't occurred, at least in my neck of the woods.
<< <i>If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter? >>
I guess it depends on what time it is, AND how much I've had to drink!
What we've got here is failure to communicate.....
Split grading would just add to the chaos further. MS64/64+, with the back half of a green bean, for a coin that looks better on the reverse side but barely makes 64 on the obverse, for instance. Next we'll be noting that the rim is Genuine, not gradable.
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Certified grading is really to answer the question "what's it worth" rather than the technical grade. The market has NO interest in trying to rationalize the value of MS65/MS63 or MS64/MS65 split grades.
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<< <i>Certified grading is really to answer the question "what's it worth" rather than the technical grade. The market has NO interest in trying to rationalize the value of MS65/MS63 or MS64/MS65 split grades. >>
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If we are going to do this, why not go back to some of the older methods that made sense,such as...
AU details, minor porosity, pleasing overall, net xf.
Tom
JJ
of the overall appearance of the coin, does nothing except complicate the issue.
Consider three Morgan $ that would most likely all grade MS-65 with a single grade:
66 obverse, 64 reverse
65+ obverse, 67 reverse
65 obverse, 64+ reverse
Only the 2nd coin would be considered a high end 65, although the first coin might
actually be more appealing to most collectors. Coin 3 would be a hard sell without a
nice discount. In my opinion split grading would be a major step backwards.
It's rather pointless since the entire coin should be considered, not just one face or the other.
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<< <i>I voted no, but I think that using a single numerical abbreviation as a grade is even worse. >>
lol so true
<< <i>If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter? >>
<< <i>The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ >>
I have been collecting long before grading holders came along-I have never cared about grades on the holder--It's my opinion that counts.
<< <i>The longer I collect the less I care about the grades on the holders.............it's either a wow coin or it isn't in my eyes. MJ
I have been collecting long before grading holders came along-I have never cared about grades on the holder--It's my opinion that counts. >>
GrandAm
I would support a 100 point grading system but the Sheldon Scale is so ingrained in the collecting community that it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to implement it.
I would like to see honest grading, the end to the so-called "market grading", "+" and "*" designations and the CAC bean.
The CAC bean is a particular pet peeve of mine. I've been collecting coins for over 50 years and I can easily spot a coin that is a prime example of its grade.
To me, grading companies are invaluable for verifying the authenticity of a coin and they do an excellent job at it, particularly PCGS , whose lifetime guarantee provides much needed buyer confidence.
Slabbing was supposed to make sight unseen trading in coin fool proof. So far that hasn't occurred, at least in my neck of the woods.
<< <i>If you go to a singles bar and you see this nice little booty, and she turns around and looks like Mike Tyson, does a split grade really matter? >>
I guess it depends on what time it is, AND how much I've had to drink!
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They should only if you can cut the coin in half and slab either the obverse or the reverse.
Coins are two sided and both sides make the whole grade.
<< <i>Certified grading is really to answer the question "what's it worth" rather than the technical grade. The market has NO interest in trying to rationalize the value of MS65/MS63 or MS64/MS65 split grades. >>
They will when PCGS starts grading them that way.