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rec78rec78 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
Hello there- I have this odd 1969 quarter. It is darker than the photos show -please excuse my amateur attempts at photography. The edge is not reeded and it weighs 26.3 grams which is very light-I have weighed another clad quarter and it weighs 28.3 grams. It also is slightly thicker than a regular quarter and very slightly smaller in diameter. Is this a mint error? Wrong planchet? Post mint damage of some kind? OR ??? Any and all comments are appreciated as always-And thanks in advance. I finally looked it over after the snack machines kept rejecting it. I don't think that it is a counterfeit but it could be I guess. imageimageimageimage

Thanks, Bob
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  • It looks like a cast counterfeit to me.


  • << <i>It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. >>



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  • atarianatarian Posts: 3,116
    i have a 65 like that. I dont know why one would do that
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,921 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. >>



    agree. It's hard to believe anyone would bother to counterfeit such a low value coin.

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  • I have never seen a quarter that weighs anywhere even close to 26 grams. Get a new scale. image
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    It may be OK.

    The dark color could be exposure to a fire - fire could explain the loss in mass due to surficial metal removal (we're talking just <8% loss in mass, so it's not too significant).
    Your bottom photo of the cropped "third side" is misleading since your cropping is wavy and distracts from how level the coin really is (and the pixels aren't helping either!).

    The couple of 1960's counterfeit Washington Quarters I own do not look as good as this one.

    So, my conclusion is some sort of PMD on an authentic quarter
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have never seen a quarter that weighs anywhere even close to 26 grams. Get a new scale. >>



    LOL-you're right. The scale is Ok. I just don't know what setting it is on--maybe it is grains? I changed the mode on the scale - It weighs 5.25 grams vs. 5.65 for a regular quarter.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it's real, perhaps it was a metal detector find at a beach.image

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    My guess is someone tapped the edge down, in manner similar to when a half dollar is made into a ring, which is why it has no reeding and appears to be thicker than normal.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,921 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My guess is someone tapped the edge down, in manner similar to when a half dollar is made into a ring, which is why it has no reeding and appears to be thicker than normal. >>



    Wouldn't heavy use in casino slot machines have the same effect?

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the edge was spooned.....
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    It's just a worn our quarter.
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As stated above (I think "Stone" said it first),
    it's been heated, and tapped on the edge, for
    whatever purpose we'll never know.

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there any evidence of a copper color on the edge? If so, my guess would be that the coin is real, since a counterfeiter would be unlikely to duplicate the cladding process. If not, the coin could still be real if post-mint damage to the edge covered up the clad layer.

    In the 1960's, there was talk in numismatic circles about the possibility that clad quarters would be counterfeited. At the time, a quarter was worth about $2.00 in today's money. Considering that nickels were counterfeited in the 1940's, I think it's possible that some counterfeit quarters were produced during the early years of clad coinage.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,381 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. >>



    it does to me to but why counterfit modern carp like that?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,921 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. >>



    it does to me to but why counterfit modern carp like that? >>



    Ask Mr. Henning who made all those nickels.image

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,115 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most likely the start of a coin ring.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why would somebody make a clad coin ring, instead of just using a silver coin from a few years earlier?

    I'm not sayin' they wouldn't, but it just seems odd, that's all.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,921 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would somebody make a clad coin ring, instead of just using a silver coin from a few years earlier?

    I'm not sayin' they wouldn't, but it just seems odd, that's all. >>



    Good point. The only explaination that makes sense is that it spent time being used in a casino with slot machines which will peen the edges of coins over time.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,073 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would somebody make a clad coin ring, instead of just using a silver coin from a few years earlier?

    I'm not sayin' they wouldn't, but it just seems odd, that's all. >>



    When I was a kid a loooooong time ago, my friends and I would "spoon" the edge of quarter and make a ring out of them. This coin your showing looks to me as someone started this process and then stopped maybe realizing it was clad...Just a thought....
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