Grade this pair of CC gold coins--with a twist
RYK
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Let's make it interesting. Which coin is the higher grade and by how many grading steps?
(sorry that the sizes are different--the first image is not my own)
(sorry that the sizes are different--the first image is not my own)
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If I were grading them- it would be 55-50
I would be happy if these were graded 55-50 but I tend to have my doubts
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Edited to add that I am trying to guess the PCGS grades not what I grade them. I toyed with 20$ for a min before realizing I was toying with myself and they were out of my price range (back at 1250 for type) and the luster is a huge driving factor for these and one of the reason they are so rare with age on them.
I grade them AU53 and 45 and then added the PCGS chop to come up with my guess although what do I know
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1884 is a 53
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58
Knowing what gen holders and who graded these may change that.
'82=60
'84=58
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1884 CC--AU55
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I would grade the '84 AU50.
1884 AU53 by current standards due to fewer marks - XF45 by my standards due to visible wear.
I would not be surprised if they were the same grade.
roadrunner
The first coin was recently sold through Doug Winter's inventory (not my coin) as an NGC/CAC AU-58.
The second coin is one of my favorites in my collection and is a PCGS(OGH)/CAC GOLD XF-45.
While there is likely more luster in the first coin (based on the photo, I have not seen it in hand), it is hard to believe that there are four grading steps between the two.
The second coin will be in my ANA dirty gold display later in the week.
I am not not saying the 82-cc is not worthy of 58 but if it is a 58 then the 84-cc is no 45
clear enough?
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Based on the images, it is hard to believe there is a 13 point difference between the 2 coins. If resubmitted, I could see the ’84-CC in a 55 holder, though in its current PCGS OGH with a CAC Gold sticker I doubt resubmission will be considered.
There clearly isn't more than 3-5 grading points difference between the 2 coins imo. They were graded in different eras by different people. The coins are very similar imo.
If the ogh is regraded it will no doubt come out in the AU range. Each coin is stretched to the far end of it's grading band (high on one and low on the other). It happens. That's
part of the beauty/beast of our grading system.
roadrunner
<< <i>While there is likely more luster in the first coin (based on the photo, I have not seen it in hand), it is hard to believe that there are four grading steps between the two.
There clearly isn't more than 3-5 grading points difference between the 2 coins imo. They were graded in different eras by different people. The coins are very similar imo.
If the ogh is regraded it will no doubt come out in the AU range. Each coin is stretched to the far end of it's grading band (high on one and low on the other). It happens. That's
part of the beauty/beast of our grading system.
roadrunner >>
Pretty good answer IMO
55