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So, who's been requesting Genuine Secure Plus??

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
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In a recent email from Don, he notes there has been demand for it.

Why would there be??
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.

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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I hope all my SecurePlus holders are genuine?! image
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I noticed that as well and did not really get it but after thinking about...maybe for the stuff in the 1700s...1793 Chain Cent, Liberty Cap, 1796 stuff etc...I could see it being used for that I guess. Beyond the rare and expensive stuff, probably not a high demand?
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would there be?? >>



    Collectors willing to pay extra for getting their issue coins sniffed image
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Early Copper I would presume.

    as mentioned, the sniffer would be a big help here.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Early Copper I would presume.

    as mentioned, the sniffer would be a big help here. >>



    Especially now that you're making them in your wood shop! imageimage
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a rare gold coin in a genuine holder - what would I gain by spending $$ for Secure Plus?
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>I have a rare gold coin in a genuine holder - what would I gain by spending $$ for Secure Plus? >>



    A holder without scratches, a coin that has been sniffed and a pretty label. image
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You know I'm a geek most of the time, doc... but it wasn't me requesting "genuine secure plus". The "brand" is enough. I'd prefer a "net grade" on the reverse.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A holder without scratches, a coin that has been sniffed and a pretty label.

    Hmmmmmm....

    No seriously - why would I spend $600 for the sniffer plus shipping (plus the risk of loss)?

    What do I gain in value by doing so?
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>A holder without scratches, a coin that has been sniffed and a pretty label.

    Hmmmmmm....

    No seriously - why would I spend $600 for the sniffer plus shipping (plus the risk of loss)?

    What do I gain in value by doing so? >>



    I don't see a reason at this point, unless you think there's putty on the coin.
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    COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭


    << <i>I have a rare gold coin in a genuine holder - what would I gain by spending $$ for Secure Plus? >>



    You may not gain anything, but buyers down the road will. It could prevent crack- outs getting regraded into "real" holders. ? Or, it could help with stolen coins that are still high value even in "genuine" condition...lots of reasons...
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the PCGS web site.
    <<If a PCGS Secure Plus-certified coin is ever lost or stolen and subsequently resubmitted to PCGS, it can be identified and the recovery process will begin for the rightful owner. And the special Secure Plus holder label has been engineered to fight counterfeiting.>>
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    DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Early Copper I would presume.

    as mentioned, the sniffer would be a big help here. >>



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    EagleguyEagleguy Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had submitted a coin under one of the old quarterly specials for secure plus grading recently. It came back bagged because, at the time, secure plus submittals could not be graded as genuine. I would have preferred it if it came back in a genuine slab instead of a flip. I'm glad PCGS changed the rule but I never requested it after the fact.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eagleguy:

    Maybe that's the twist I didn't understand. Thanks for the post. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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    sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭
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    AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭
    Many doctored coins tend to ‘turn’ over time and subsequent chemical reactions can be horrifying or just unsightly. The sniffer may identify added substances that should be removed before coins are encapsulated for a long period of time. I suggest that all coins submitted, which are valued above $500 each, be under the SecurePlus program.

    The Formal Introduction of the PCGS ‘Coin Sniffer’ at the PCGS Luncheon

    The PCGS SecurePlus Program, Part 2: Reform

    The PCGS SecurePlus Program, Part 1: An Explanation


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    coinman23885coinman23885 Posts: 1,126
    My guess would be that since PCGS will only note one error code (even if there is more than one issue with a coin), many people may want expensive coins in "genuine" holders to be run through the sniffer to see if the toning is artificial and meant to cover additional problems that may not be visible form images alone. This is just a guess though.

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