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Guess the Grade 1879-O Morgan Dollar

blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭
Here is a fun one for you or at least me. Coin is housed in a PCGS OGH. Coin looks muted in hand, not a ton of luster present. Unlike most my GTG threads the coin is not a PL/DMPL. Curious for your thoughts....

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    bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    64
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    bidaskbidask Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Iif the luster is alll there .......65
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I agree with MS-65.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not a ton of luster present? Doesn't sound so good. Looks like a lower end of the scale MS coin. Would not be surprised with anything from 58 to 63.

    MS63.

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    TinyTiny Posts: 2,598
    Well if it graded pass Genuine then the marks make it look like
    a 62 or 63 but like another post on another GTG said " with such
    large and close up pictures it is hard to determine". In hand it would
    have to be real nice and not have a cleaned look to it or the polish
    marks on the reverse. Nice rims but for one ding at the ' E ' it's just the
    color that does not seem right. Perhaps the photograph is mis-leading.
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    BanemorthBanemorth Posts: 986 ✭✭✭
    Strikes me as a 64 personally.
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it as a 64
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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would give it a 63 due to the contact marks on the obverse.

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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll go 64image
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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63




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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,642 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65 with a shot 64.image
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63.

    Todd can't afford this date in 65. image
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭
    MS-63.

    Muted Luster and a couple of nasty hits in the obverse fields.

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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>MS63.

    Todd can't afford this date in 65. image >>



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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64+
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS63.

    Todd can't afford this date in 65. image >>



    Someone has been gone for a while and feels fiesty....don't worry I have my DMPLs that year.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64PL. No frost but still a wonderfully struck dollar!

    Nice one Todd!

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64
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    sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    I'm gonna go with 64.
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With good luster, the coin looks to me to be a cinch 65. Since you say it's muted, I'll go with 64.
    Unless, of course, you're throwing us a curve and it's AU... image
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62

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    this is one that I'd want to eyeball; 63

    the 'appeal' factor has me confused-

    (79-O is one of my favorite coins; a fair number seem to be really well struck: terrific eagle and devices)
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Muted luster + hits + OGH = 62
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>this is one that I'd want to eyeball; 63

    the 'appeal' factor has me confused-

    (79-O is one of my favorite coins; a fair number seem to be really well struck: terrific eagle and devices) >>



    Is this one in your well struck category for the year?

    On these GTG threads people often say if luster this, or luster that so I wanted to make sure it clear this was not a blazing coin.
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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭
    62 - hairlines in the fields on reverse.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like it would be cozy in any holder that said MS 63, although it wouldn't bother me seeing it in a 64 holder. I could see it as an MS66 DMPL in a few rogue holders. image
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice strike for an O mint piece.
    Quite possibly housed in a 3 holder, but that baby is a 4 all day long.
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    63 due to muted luster
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The suspense is killing me, WTG image
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63. There are also some scratches in field of rev just to left of eagle. Small but adding to the other issues mentioned...
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The suspense is killing me, WTG image >>



    I was waiting for one correct guess, and even with all the good guesses we dont have a correct one yet.
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63PL
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    EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭
    62
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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    SUPER SLIDER AU58!
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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The suspense is killing me, WTG image >>



    I was waiting for one correct guess, and even with all the good guesses we dont have a correct one yet. >>




    That is a pretty amazing morgan if is graded au58.
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    NewRoseNewRose Posts: 309 ✭✭


    << <i>SUPER SLIDER AU58! >>



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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭


    << <i>SUPER SLIDER AU58! >>



    WE HAVE A WINNER!

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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>SUPER SLIDER AU58! >>



    Ding DIng DIng...Winnah!! Well you did not win anything but coin is a PCGS AU58 OGH.
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard to believe, difficult to see the AU. I entertained AU, after reading, "here is a fun one".
    Must have left the mint, straight to a bank, then pulled from circulation.
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    bidaskbidask Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HERITAGE summer Fun has a 1879 o $ supposedly wiyh good luster.
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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>SUPER SLIDER AU58! >>



    Ding DIng DIng...Winnah!! Well you did not win anything but coin is a PCGS AU58 OGH. >>



    I can not see anything that would say AU to me image
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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>

    << <i>SUPER SLIDER AU58! >>



    Ding DIng DIng...Winnah!! Well you did not win anything but coin is a PCGS AU58 OGH. >>



    Darn! I was hoping I won free morgans for a year! image
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    << <i>

    << <i>this is one that I'd want to eyeball; 63

    the 'appeal' factor has me confused-

    (79-O is one of my favorite coins; a fair number seem to be really well struck: terrific eagle and devices) >>



    Is this one in your well struck category for the year?

    On these GTG threads people often say if luster this, or luster that so I wanted to make sure it clear this was not a blazing coin. >>


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    not trying to be an expert here;
    been in the habit of looking for well struck Os and Ss, with particular attention to the eagle details; many 79-Os seem to have really well defined breast feathers (as well as a nice obverse);

    the coin in question seems to be an exception- I doubt that you resorted to some kind of soft-lighting photographic technique here to soften the detail.
    ===
    posted in response to your reply, before I read the rest of the thread;

    how'd you end up with an AU? out of character, no?
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58??? No way. There is absolutely no wear showing on the eagles breast feathers, wing tips or
    talons. Where the heck is the "almost" uncirculated???

    Todd, that is a seriously misgraded coin!

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    << <i>I would give it a 63 due to the contact marks on the obverse. >>



    That's my call too. But it's a minority opinion.

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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>AU58??? No way. There is absolutely no wear showing on the eagles breast feathers, wing tips or
    talons. Where the heck is the "almost" uncirculated???

    Todd, that is a seriously misgraded coin!

    bobimage >>



    The only place I could begin to say is the hair directly above the ear. I'm no expert though. My AU58 super slider guess was meant to be funny and on the money because nobody was getting it. I recently picked up an AU66 1926 Oregon. Perfect everywhere minus the highest points that rubbed during opening and closing of a drawer that it sat in for 80+ years. Let us not also forget that he did say it had muted luster. I could see on the reverse, where those "hairlines" are present next to the wings in the field, I bet that area is muted. And I bet just enough to give it the designated AU58 grade.
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's hard to tell for sure from the photo, but the cheek does appear to have somewhat flatter
    luster than the rest of the obverse, which is why I alluded to the possibility that Todd was
    throwing us an AU curve ball in my original post.

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