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Would You Open A Sealed Container of Chain Cents?

CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
Let's take this issue of opening mint bags to a hyperbolic conclusion---

Suppose you had a sealed container of 1793 chain cents. Spectrographic & x-ray analysis suggests that they are all red uncs. A lock expert verifies that the mechanism is consistent with late 18th century usage in Philadelphia. A contemporary letter of transmittal (describing the exact contents) comes with the box, which has been verified by multiple document experts as authentic.

Are they worth more as is or if you open the container?

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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Huuuummmm. I know two things for sure, that this situation would be AWESOME, and that they would be worth more sold piecemeal...and I'm not sure about the latter.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hell yes I would open it because at the price they would go for anyway, I would make enough off peacemealing them and keeping one or two that I wanted anyway.

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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hell yes I would open it because at the price they would go for anyway, I would make enough off peacemealing them and keeping one or two that I wanted anyway. >>



    Agreed...who wouldn't want to keep a few?
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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No way!
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes.
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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Does a bear poop in the woods? image >>



    Apparently he poops money... haven't you been following the coins he's been buying the past few weeks? image
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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Does a bear poop in the woods? image >>



    Apparently he poops money... haven't you been following the coins he's been buying the past few weeks? image >>




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    renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a silly question.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one is no brainer. I would send the unopened container and all the documentation to PCGS to get them slabbed with the first strike designation on the label.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Take photos, document the mint packaging and then open it and sell the coins slowly over time.

    You might get a really wealthy collector to buy the whole package at an astronomical price, but if that fails the cat will out of the bag and everyone will know that a large number of Red Uncs are hanging over the market. That would depress the price of the whole group. Make like the dealer who had control over the Mint State 1950-D nickel population did many years ago. Get rich slowly … image
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    closed boxes are meant to be opened.
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would open them. Then VERY SLOWLY over time submit the very best examples to PCGS one coin at a time.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>This one is no brainer. I would send the unopened container and all the documentation to PCGS to get them slabbed with the first strike designation on the label. >>



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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AND then I woke up!
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    I'd list them on Ebay and be sure to cover up the "Made in China" stamp on the roll.
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    erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭
    Museum, either on loan or sold, intact. Something like that wasn't kept together for all those years for me to tear apart and sell.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's take this issue of opening mint bags to a hyperbolic conclusion---

    Suppose you had a sealed container of 1793 chain cents. >>




    Show me a link..........

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meh ... not that much of interest to me (other than the historical significance)*. Now ... if it were a bag of double dimes found in Carson City ... now we're talkin'!

    *I would first look carefully for the "Made in China" sticker. image
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    MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219
    To attempt to answer the point of this question - I would never buy any unopened bag/box/container and keep it that way. I'm a coin collector, not a container collector.
    In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
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    I would open it up, clean the coins with brasso. Everyone knows that cleaned coins sell for way more.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To the second question :

    They're worth what someone is willing to pay, hypothetically... that could be ONE BILLION DOLLARS image
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's test even further limits to this sealed container of 1793 Chain Cents hypothetical.

    For all of you who have stated that you would open the sealed container to get to the MS Red Chain Cents, assume that the sealed container of the 1793 Chain Cents was itself contained within "Pandora's Box".

    Would you open Pandora's Box so you could get the sealed container of 1793 Chain Cents, or would you leave Pandora's Box closed?
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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>Let's test even further limits to this sealed container of 1793 Chain Cents hypothetical.

    For all of you who have stated that you would open the sealed container to get to the MS Red Chain Cents, assume that the sealed container of the 1793 Chain Cents was itself contained within "Pandora's Box".

    Would you open Pandora's Box so you could get the sealed container of 1793 Chain Cents, or would you leave Pandora's Box closed? >>



    I suppose I'd drop my acid before doing so to create a more lively effect. Yes, I would open Pandora's Box.

    P.S. If I got to open Pandora's Box, I'd let my sidekick open the chain cents and keep them, too.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Someone, will eventually open them so it might as well be me.

    I feel the same way towards bags and original US Mint shipping boxes of proofs and unc sets.

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    HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    If you do not actually play the lottery, you'll never win.

    Or lose image
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone has too much time on their hands.
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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Duh. Yes.

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