lets see your 1864 2 cent small and large motto

greatnortherncoin · June 21, 2011 7:12AM

pictures, how do you tell them apart

relicsncoins · June 21, 2011 7:16AM

Here is the large motto.

LoveMyLiberty · June 21, 2011 8:04AM

Small motto; IGWT in banner has smaller letters & G in GOD tilts left, bottom left set of leaves
above feathers has two cherries, group of leaves below left arrow shaft has 4 leaves.

Large motto; IGWT in banner has larger letters & G in GOD is not tilted, bottom left set of leaves
above feathers has one cherry, group of leaves under left arrow shaft has 3 leaves.

Several other differences, but you should read about it in Kevin Flynn's new book
"The Authoritative Reference On Two Cent Coins." It's very good.

Which one is the above coin?

robkool · June 21, 2011 8:10AM

Ooops... 1864 ??? My bad...

LoveMyLiberty · June 21, 2011 8:13AM

Look here for a Small motto 1864

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Raybo · June 21, 2011 9:42AM

Here's my SM.

keyman64 · June 21, 2011 10:20AM

<< <i>Look here for a Small motto 1864

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greatnortherncoin · June 21, 2011 1:05PM

thanks

ThePennyLady · June 21, 2011 3:27PM

Here's a photo comparison from CoinFacts:

Small Motto vs. Large Motto

Leonidas · June 21, 2011 3:41PM

Interesting...Thanks

greghansen · June 21, 2011 7:37PM

The way I always remember this 'in the field' is that on the small motto, the base of the letter T in TRUST very nearly touches the ribbon fold to its left. On the large motto, the T is farther to the right well away from the fold of the ribbon.

As a collector in the field, I prefer pick up point (PUP's) that don't rely upon a comparison to the other variety, because I usually don't have the other variety in my hand to make the comparison when I need it. Therefore, its helpful if I can remember a quick little PUP where I can immediately tell the difference by looking only at the coin in the field and not have to have anything to compare it to. I'm sure there are many other differences between these two that could be used in this fashion. This is just the quick and easy little thing I've always used, and never had a problem forgetting it.

BillJones · June 21, 2011 9:40PM

Here's my 1864 Two Cent piece, which is the only coin I own that is in a "rattle holder." I've got an 1864 Small Motto Two Cent piece, but I have not photographed it, and it's in the bank. It's a Choice AU, and the coin is scarce in that grade. The Small Motto variety was made from a pattern die that ended up being used for a business strike coin. It is neat, and that's why I bought one years ago.

This coin is a PCGS MS-65, Red.

greatnortherncoin · June 22, 2011 8:55AM

bill wow what a coin

lets see your 1864 2 cent small and large motto

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