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I wish our gold coins looked like this....

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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful design. The stars on the cap are cool.
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those do. Do you want every gold coin to look the same?
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those do. Do you want every gold coin to look the same?
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Suddenly I'm in the mood for some double mint gum...
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Those do. Do you want every gold coin to look the same? >>



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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Beautiful design. The stars on the cap are cool. >>



    Cool indeed... I didn't even notice them until I read your post!
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very pretty design, the font type on the reverse seems weird, and perhaps a bit on the small side, but otherwise a very nice coin.
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    questor54questor54 Posts: 1,351
    The AGEs, ASEs and APEs could have a design change once in a while.....why not use the designs from some classic patterns? I know the APEs have yearly reverse design changes now, and they make a nice set.
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    For expanded information visit uspatterns.com

    This is a Judd-271. The "V" in FIVE is an upside-down "A"!
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty cool!
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    It's interesting to note how many designs for US coinage that never made it past the design/prototype stage blow away what was ultimately chosen to be our representative coins.

    Edited to add; Cool coin BTW!
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Those do. Do you want every gold coin to look the same? >>



    If you have an opinion you want everyone to read... post it twice! image >>



    Actually, the site isn't supposed to allow you to post twice like that but it does anyway. I think it is my mouse because I have seen it double click at other times too. I'll have SM delete one.image
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did Paquet have a part in this?
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    Ray, Longacre did the obverse...the new Judd book doesn't state who designed the reverse, but it certainly has Pacquet written all over it.

    Imagine one of these in a nice G or VG. That'd be awesome.
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    LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭

    Listed in the Coin World Encyclopedia as E. 1680 (experimental piece) they state the
    obv. designed by James B. Longacre. The rev. is in the Pacquet style, but usually attributed
    to Longacre.

    They show that it is J-271. There is also a copper version , E. 1681, J-272 where some are
    gilt.

    CaptHenway may have further on this piece.
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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    I like everything about it but that top piece of the hat.
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    paladinpaladin Posts: 898 ✭✭

    Great example of "less is more".

    The Mint is in desperate need of a Director with marketing savvy. And if you don't think so, just take a look at some of the recent issues from our friends to the north and south, as well as Europe, Australia & China. There's a huge worldwide market out there.


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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Great design, and they sould not be allowed to be in a lesser grade either.

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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Our current coinage cannot hold a candle to the rejected designs of our country's past.

    Imagine what they'd say if they could see what coins we use in commerce today.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really like that cap and star obverse image

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,019 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Listed in the Coin World Encyclopedia as E. 1680 (experimental piece) they state the
    obv. designed by James B. Longacre. The rev. is in the Pacquet style, but usually attributed
    to Longacre.

    They show that it is J-271. There is also a copper version , E. 1681, J-272 where some are
    gilt.

    CaptHenway may have further on this piece. >>



    I wrote it, so it must be true......

    The tentative attribution to Pacquet was merely instinctive. I could find nothing in writing to support it.
    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is one beautiful gold coin..... Cheers, RickO
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those do. Do you want every gold coin to look the same? >>



    Sorry, didn't realize it was a pattern. You could always suggest to the mint or your congressperson to consider using it.
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there any information on why the cap and star design was not chosen?
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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    I don't
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats a looker for sure image
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll go against the flow: Interesting because it's different. But overall I don't care for it. Goofy eyes, silly star band on the top, and the devices are too small. I appreciate big fields. These just make the liberty and the eagle look disproportionately small.
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the devices are too small. I appreciate big fields. These just make the liberty and the eagle look disproportionately small. >>

    I was thinking about this as well. I imagine the devices would be very small on a half eagle.
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    BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭
    That design for the hat WAS eventually used...for Smurfs...
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the font type on the reverse seems weird, and perhaps a bit on the small side

    As does the date. Perhaps the reason has something to do with the fact that the diameter of this pattern is much larger than the standard half eagle.
    Andy Lustig

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,019 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Very pretty design, the font type on the reverse seems weird, and perhaps a bit on the small side, but otherwise a very nice coin. >>



    That was one of the reasons they did patterns, so that if they liked the overall design they could tweak the fine details before production began.

    I am sure that the 1864 Small Motto two cents piece is from a pattern die that was simply used rather than wasting it.

    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The hat brings to mind a large scorpion. image
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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The hat brings to mind a large scorpion. image >>



    It reminds me of a dong. It's ugly.
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...i just love that "V" image
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