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Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
<< <i>Dipped or not, the strike, luster and detail of that coin is fantastic
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
<< <i>Nope - only one. The silver 1700's coin - the copper coin was from the Deal of the Decade. >>
That coin has been posted here before, and I never tire of looking at it.
That had to be the first coin to come off the press. Wow.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
Tom
<< <i>I'm speechless.....Hope you got it for a great deal. >>
Nope. Great coins aren't cheap and cheap coins aren't great!
But if you can truly find fault with that coin you just need to move along.
Fantastic piece.
Mike
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
<< <i>Great coins aren't cheap and cheap coins aren't great... yet! >>
You have to have some predictive capability and patience
Definitely one of the greats
<< <i>Nope - only one. The silver 1700's coin - the copper coin was from the Deal of the Decade.
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Wow. Simply wow.
US and British coin collector, and creator of The Ultimate Chuck E. Cheese's and Showbiz Pizza Place Token & Ticket Guide
Is he breaking up his Dollar Type Set, or just replacing it with another?
R.I.P. Bear
<< <i>That had to be the first coin to come off the press. Wow. >>
No quite. It has the beginnings of the triangular shaped die break that forms above the spot where Ms. Liberty has her hair pulled back. Since there are examples of this variety that do not show that die break, this could not have been the first piece struck, but it’s still a fantastic coin. It just goes to show that you don’t need to have the “first strike” to still have a wonderful coin.
Here an example of the same variety with the die break highlighted.
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<< <i>That had to be the first coin to come off the press. Wow. >>
No quite. It has the beginnings of the triangular shaped die break that forms above the spot where Ms. Liberty has her hair pulled back. Since there are examples of this variety that do not show that die break, this could not have been the first piece struck, but it’s still a fantastic coin. It just goes to show that you don’t need to have the “first strike” to still have a wonderful coin. >>
Thanks Bill. Great, informative post!
Can I be your son?
<< <i>PCGS has no problem with dipped coins, so long as they are not over dipped. There are tons of dipped coins in PCGS holders. >>
There are tons of over dipped coins in holders too.
Didn't Jim Halperin discuss in his grading book an episode where he dipped a 1795 Dollar? I wonder if its this coin?
Great coin, they should print this out and pass it out at the door as a supreme example of an acceptable and desirable (by serious numismatists) dipped coin.
Congrats, TDN
Congrats for your pickup.
Jim
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Wonderful coin! Julian's right, it does have a lot of pop apparent even in the pics, so in hand I can only assume the luster is considerably better than the images. It's in an older holder too, so I'm guessing the work done on it was top notch.
<< <i>Is he breaking up his Dollar Type Set, or just replacing it with another? >>
The entire type set, not just dollars, was for sale individually.
I saw this coin in person at lot viewing FUN 2007 and liked it very much. The devices are frosted and the luster is full and flowing.
Guess, he is not doing holed coins anymore!
As usual, your latest acquistion is exquiste. A stunning coin you must be very happy to own.
The above kudos aside, here is my question:
Given the rapid increase in the spot price of silver over the past months, what would the spot price of silver have to be for the value of the precious metal content of your new silver dollar to exceed the numismatic value of same???????????????????
I bet that even in today's market, it will take a very, very, very, very......................................... very long time for the spot price of silver to reach the level where the numismatic premium of your 1795 dollar disappears
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<< <i>I'm speechless.....Hope you got it for a great deal. >>
Nope. Great coins aren't cheap and cheap coins aren't great! >>
There is great and there is GREAT. If I had the means, that is the type of coin I would pursue.
<< <i> Didn't Jim Halperin discuss in his grading book an episode where he dipped a 1795 Dollar? I wonder if its this coin? >>
Those were my thoughts as well.
roadrunner
Wrong.
<< <i>Nope. Great coins aren't cheap and cheap coins aren't great!
Wrong. >>
Wrong.
Cheap has nothing to do with price level, it has to do with price level in the grade. Nobody is going to sell a high end great coin for low end money - there is no Santa Claus in numismatics.
<< <i>there is no Santa Claus in numismatics. >>
I thought PCGS and CAC could be considered Santa
Great addition to your type set. You are through with the dollars? Some of us still need to add to our sets.
Great coins are not cheap ,but cheap coins can be great-- if you are willing to downgrade several levels.
I recently bought a real rare CBH in AU 50-- it had been downgraded from NGC 55. At the prior sale, where it was in the TPG slab as 55, it only brought 9500--real cheap for a true 55 for this variety.
But properly graded as an AU 50, and 50% more in price, it became a super coin, that was not cheap.
Wonderful acquisition! Congratulations!!
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
With all due respect, to simply say "great coins aren't cheap and cheap coins aren't great" can be interpreted in many different ways. Given your clarification, I understand that when comparing to coins of the same kind and the same grade the nicer coin will command a premium. Like TahoeDale said, "cheap coins can be great". Thank you.
Ben
There is if one considers all the top flight NGC coins that simply won't cross. If one sells those in the holders, you sort of have to price them like it was XMas. Only other option is taking
a risk to crack them out. The wise and experienced Claus likes to buy coins like that so he can benefit from the upgrade or cross that only he seems able to make.
Sometimes cheap coins are great. Just look at all those swilly (but pure white) common date MS64 and MS65 Morgans now fetching huge premiums only because they are holdered.
To some, it's just like Christmas.
roadrunner
As FatMan used to say before he was banned
Just Say NO!
...to Dipping
Are you hiring because I have been looking for a change of pace, where do I send my resume, cover letter, recommendation list and coin bio too?