Home U.S. Coin Forum

What well known collector / dealer in numismatic history would you like to know more about?

MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
Books have been written about Eliasberg, Norweb and Garrett.

Much has been written about Pittman and Ford. And the catalogs for each man's auctions are standard references today.

Who would you like to know more about?

Maybe you've been impressed with their coins; you have a copy of their auction catalog; or you've just heard about them over the years.

What can you learn from reading about past collectors?

Comments

  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    Burdette Johnson of St. Louis Stamp & Coin......the few excerpts i have read about him, mainly from Abe Kosoff Remembers, make him seem like quite an interesting fellow who had much pull in the industry

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    I'm biased - but the last couple years or so Hesslein has had me intrigued. Ran a semi-successful auction for a while then up-and-left with a bunch of peoples consignments from what I can tell. He was also a charter member of the local club here in Cincinnati.
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1940's - 1950's Dayton, Ohio jeweler/coin dealer James Kelly. He was for a while the dean of U.S. coin dealers.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LakeSammman and TradeDollarNut
    Folks I could actually sit down, chat with, and see what they have (and, hear more of what they have sold)

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
    Byron Reed

    Between his coin, manuscript, book, signature (yep, he collected signatures in the 19th century), etc. collections, he must have been an interesting guy with interesting tastes and probably an interesting background.
    Collecting coins, medals and currency featuring "The Sower"
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Israel Switt
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275


    << <i>Byron Reed

    Between his coin, manuscript, book, signature (yep, he collected signatures in the 19th century), etc. collections, he must have been an interesting guy with interesting tastes and probably an interesting background. >>



    I take it this was not the same Byron Reed?
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Virgil Brand and family. Eli Lilly might be another.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    QDB wrote a book about Brand: "Virgil Brand: The Man and his Era. Profile of a Numismatist"

    I would like to know more about the late 19th-century collectors, dealers, and auctioneers (e.g., Mickley, Levick, McCoy, Woodward).
    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Colonel E. H. R. Green
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭
    Ditto on Colonel Green.

    Kenneth W. Rendell.

    Q. David Bowers.

  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    Lester Merkin. He must have been a fascinating fellow to have known, a Jazz musician before becoming a prominent dealer. He handled/auctioned some of the finest collections in his day including Helfenstein.
    TomT-1794

    Check out some of my 1794 Large Cents on www.coingallery.org
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    David Bullowa.

    He died young, and I've never been able to find out what happened to him. He wrote a pioneering worth on U.S. commemorative coins, and collectors who knew him called him, "A great numismatist."

    His wife, Catherine, carried on the business after his death down to the present day. She had a booth at the last Baltimore show.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Max Mehl... or, in my more morbid moments, Breen...
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    When is that tell-all book coming out about John Ford?

    And, of course, I would love to read a biography or autobiography of my beloved QDB. This had better be on Dentuck's goals and objectives filed with the Whitman HR Department for 2011.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • firstmintfirstmint Posts: 1,171
    The John J. Ford, Jr. and the "Franklin Hoard" book is awaiting QDB's imput from an association with Ford for over 50 years.

    As most of you already know, my friend Dave Bowers has been busy with getting another new coin firm launched (Stacks-Bowers) and is gearing up for the first of several important ANA sales.

    The Ford/Franklin Hoard book is done except for what QDB has to offer; which I'm sure will be well worth the wait.

    ColonelJessup - Eli Lilly did not have anything to do with American numismatics. His grandson Josiah Kirby Lilly was a wealthy Indiana collector who commissioned Stack's (exclusively) to assemble a gold coin collection from 1951 to his death in 1966. Many of the U.S. private and territorial gold pieces that were sold to Lilly by Stack's, came from Ford and ended up in the Smithsonian Institution when the Lilly collection was "donated" for a tax credit in 1968. There were quite a few modern (1952-1960s) fakes of 19th century gold coins and bars sold to Lilly. This story, the Lilly inventory and appraisal, and the pedigrees will be presented in the Ford book, along with other assorted tales.
    PM me if you are looking for U.S. auction catalogs
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sheldon! That's another scoundrel.. he's having lava tea with Breen at the moment, no doubt.
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are a few (in no particular order):

    1) Clark and/or Gruber
    2) Lesher
    3) Elder
    4) Dickeson
    5) Lovett
    6) That guy who rumor has it took two 1964-D Peace Dollars out of the Denver Mint in 1965 and spent them.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    B. Max Mehl - The numismatic business pioneer.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • Klif50Klif50 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭✭
    Mike Weber and Jim Burns, both of Coins of Laurel fame.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    Jay Parrino. He pioneered the marketing of super-expensive US coins not all that long ago.
  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Burdette Johnson of St. Louis Stamp & Coin......the few excerpts i have read about him, mainly from Abe Kosoff Remembers, make him seem like quite an interesting fellow who had much pull in the industry >>



    The owner of the "Missouri Cabinet" told me a story about how Burdette Johnson gave him scholarship when purchasing a proof Barber Quarter. Mr. Johnson instructed my friend that he did not want the shiny one because it has been "wiped." Instead, he told him to select the toned example with its patina undisturbed.

    When we went to EAC in 2007, Mr. Newman (who will be 100 next month), also told us stories about Burdette Johnson and Henry Chapman.

    Hearing contemporary stories about Henry Chapman is like my grandfather telling me when he saw Babe Ruth in 1928 as a 13-year-old.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Peter (Pierre) Flandin. Possibly Americas first serious Numismatist and a dealer and collector of coins in the 1820s.

    Imagine the pick he had?????
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lester Merkin. He must have been a fascinating fellow to have known, a Jazz musician before becoming a prominent dealer. He handled/auctioned some of the finest collections in his day including Helfenstein. >>



    I only conversed with him a few times, but was always impressed by his natural warmth and willingness to share his knowledge and offer encouragement. He was a sweet man. And his taste was impeccable.

    He also acquired the King of Siam set from Spink's (?) and sold it to Elvin Unterman.

    So I change my vote.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭
    I have always wanted (and love to hear) more stories and information about Dick Picker. He came up with some of the best colonial coins and related material in the past 60 years. I always enjoyed how when he was asked "how would you grade this coin", his response would be along the lines of "I grade this coin $250".
    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • homerunhallhomerunhall Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭
    Clapp...father and son. They bought coins directly from each of the Mints circa 1893-1912ish. And they picked out the super incredible quality coins. They looked at coins like we look at coins. Nobody else looked at coins that way in 1900. In fact, nobody looked at coins that way in 1950. Their coins, especially their gold coins are just unbelieveable. The Clapp coins make me believe in time travel. What were they thinking?????? How did they do it????????

    hrh

  • Adolphe Menjou.
    USAF RET. 1963-1984

    Successful BSTs with: Grote15, MadMarty, Segoja,cucamongacoin,metalsman.
  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    Dave Wnuck, with regard to Jay Parrino, I recall going over to his table several times over the course of a few years in the early to mid 90s at larger shows, always interested in the same two or three Gem 1794 Large Cent varieties in his case, acquired after Ted Naftxger sold his Early Dates to Eric Streiner and Jay got "first shot". I always got a different story on each coin I asked about, and never got the same story twice! It was mind blowing.. His gift of bull**** was totally amazing. Turns out I never could buy any of those 1794s from Jasper, as the price changed as often as the stories did! But Tony Terranova came to the rescue and was able to purchase two of these gems for me for prices I felt were reasonable, and I happily compensated him for his troubles. TomT.
    TomT-1794

    Check out some of my 1794 Large Cents on www.coingallery.org
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eric Newman
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Eric Newman >>


    I run by his house three mornings/week. Let me know what you want to know, and I will knock on his door (at 6:13 AM).
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Eric Newman >>


    I run by his house three mornings/week. Let me know what you want to know, and I will knock on his door (at 6:13 AM). >>



    Hmmm. Do we have a stalker on our hands image
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Eric Newman >>


    I run by his house three mornings/week. Let me know what you want to know, and I will knock on his door (at 6:13 AM). >>


    Knock, knock

    "Yes?"

    "Hi! I'm Robert. I collect coins!"

    Slam!

    <Sound of 9-1-1 being dialed on phone...>



    image
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have always wanted (and love to hear) more stories and information about Dick Picker. He came up with some of the best colonial coins and related material in the past 60 years. I always enjoyed how when he was asked "how would you grade this coin", his response would be along the lines of "I grade this coin $250". >>


    You might enjoy this thread.
  • DaveEDaveE Posts: 367
    Chapman brothers


    A more modern genuis: David Akers
  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have always wanted (and love to hear) more stories and information about Dick Picker. He came up with some of the best colonial coins and related material in the past 60 years. I always enjoyed how when he was asked "how would you grade this coin", his response would be along the lines of "I grade this coin $250". >>



    The late Herb Silberman did the same thing.

    I never got along that well with Herb at the NJ Numismatic Society, but we used to have animated discourses about this that always ended amicably.

  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dave Wnuck, with regard to Jay Parrino, I recall going over to his table several times over the course of a few years in the early to mid 90s at larger shows, always interested in the same two or three Gem 1794 Large Cent varieties in his case, acquired after Ted Naftxger sold his Early Dates to Eric Streiner and Jay got "first shot". I always got a different story on each coin I asked about, and never got the same story twice! It was mind blowing.. His gift of bull**** was totally amazing. Turns out I never could buy any of those 1794s from Jasper, as the price changed as often as the stories did! But Tony Terranova came to the rescue and was able to purchase two of these gems for me for prices I felt were reasonable, and I happily compensated him for his troubles. TomT. >>



    Ha! That is why I chose him. I have heard so many different stories about him -- often conflicting; some obviously made up by him and by jealous rivals-- that I would like to get the absolute, unvarnished truth about his rise to "numismatic fame".
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Huh. No one mentioned BNB...........image
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    I cannot think of one. To be frank, stories of prominent collectors/dealers appeal little to me.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • Martin Paul, Robert L. Hughes, Jeffrey Isaac, and Jay Parrino...

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file