Guess the grade on 2 Peace Dollars. Grades and reasoning revealed.

Here are two P mint Peace Dollars. Both in holders. Using your knowledge of Peace Dollar grading, guess where each of these grades. Explain/elaborate if you'd like.
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Grades revealed. I thought this would be interesting beause the grades are actually the same. Both are PCGS MS64. At first glance, one wants to say that if the '28 is a 64, then the '27 should be a 63 (I think 62 is far too punishing, even with the unfortunate obverse marks). OR, if they '27 is a 64 then SURELY the '28 must be a 65. My own thoughts are as follows:
The 1928 is definitely a 64. In my mind, what keeps it from 65 is the hit at about 11:00 o'clock on the reverse. I STILL sometimes think about resubmitting this one for fun at a chance at a freak 65, but only because the jump in value is so high. What keeps me from doing it is that I like the coin so much, and if I got a freak 65 grade, I'd HAVE to sell it, and I feel like I'd have a tough time replacing it with as nice of a 64. I'd also feel the TINIEST bit guilty selling at the price of a 65. This is what a nice 64 peace dollar looks like. It currently resides in an OGH.
The 1927 is a little bit tougher, and I think a couple of things are at play. Two things I think put this coin in a 64 holder, despite the nics on liberty's cheek and neck. (besides the fact that the hits are much more dramatic in the picture than in real life) First, it isn't ugly. 1927P Peace Dollars are usually just hideous. I think this one caught a little bit of a break because it is a pretty coin. Even though the hits aren't ideal, they are the only real hits on the obverse of the coin. Second, I think this is an example of a super solid reverse carrying a coin up in a grader's mind. Really look at the reverse of the 27. It is very clean, and SUPER clean in the areas it should be. It even has a bit of a rainbow showing in the top left part of the rim. If the obverse looked like the reverse, the coin would be a 66. (and frogs with wings wouldn't have sore asses, I know)
Edited to add:

Editd to add:
Grades revealed. I thought this would be interesting beause the grades are actually the same. Both are PCGS MS64. At first glance, one wants to say that if the '28 is a 64, then the '27 should be a 63 (I think 62 is far too punishing, even with the unfortunate obverse marks). OR, if they '27 is a 64 then SURELY the '28 must be a 65. My own thoughts are as follows:
The 1928 is definitely a 64. In my mind, what keeps it from 65 is the hit at about 11:00 o'clock on the reverse. I STILL sometimes think about resubmitting this one for fun at a chance at a freak 65, but only because the jump in value is so high. What keeps me from doing it is that I like the coin so much, and if I got a freak 65 grade, I'd HAVE to sell it, and I feel like I'd have a tough time replacing it with as nice of a 64. I'd also feel the TINIEST bit guilty selling at the price of a 65. This is what a nice 64 peace dollar looks like. It currently resides in an OGH.
The 1927 is a little bit tougher, and I think a couple of things are at play. Two things I think put this coin in a 64 holder, despite the nics on liberty's cheek and neck. (besides the fact that the hits are much more dramatic in the picture than in real life) First, it isn't ugly. 1927P Peace Dollars are usually just hideous. I think this one caught a little bit of a break because it is a pretty coin. Even though the hits aren't ideal, they are the only real hits on the obverse of the coin. Second, I think this is an example of a super solid reverse carrying a coin up in a grader's mind. Really look at the reverse of the 27. It is very clean, and SUPER clean in the areas it should be. It even has a bit of a rainbow showing in the top left part of the rim. If the obverse looked like the reverse, the coin would be a 66. (and frogs with wings wouldn't have sore asses, I know)


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MS63...
MS63
I sure wish the reverse of that 1927 looked as good as the obverse...
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I sure wish the reverse of that 1927 looked as good as the obverse... >>
I think you might have meant that the other way around. I think the reverse on the 27 is better than the obverse.
I'm not sure what it is about the 27, but in my experience, it is the hardest of all the coins to find 'nice.' It is easy enough to find higher grades if you are willing to pay the money, but it is a a HUGE pain to find a good looking coin. I shopped for the coin for 3 years before I bought it. (for my toned, but not ugly toned, peace dollar set)
Jim
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63
Cheers, RickO
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...62 and 63
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Like the 28 tho
<< <i>Some bad gashes on that 27 for a 64 IMO >>
I don't necessarily disagree. The reverse though, is FAR too nice for a 64. I think this was a case of (63+65.8)/2=64.
<< <i>Sooprise, sooprise, sooprise... Would not have thought 64.... oh well, that is why it is called an 'opinion'. Someday soon we will have computer grading... Cheers, RickO >>
We already have computer grading... I believe you graded them 62 and 63 on your computer!