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Guess the grade of this 1839-O Bust Half

AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
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I am considering purchasing this piece and would like others thoughts on it. Its in a slightly older NGC holder which is VERY scratched up. The patch over the R in Liberty is on the slab. Scratches over the B, and across the cheek are also on the slab. The coin has nice darker blue toning.

What do you think NGC graded it? And what would PCGS grade it as a crossover?

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Thanks,
AJ
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-50 NGC

    EF-45 PCGS
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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭
    AU50 and AU50
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NGC53

    PCGS50 maybe 53
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    N = 55

    P = 53

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    xf45, with a shot at au50.
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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭✭
    horizontal hairlines indicate improper cleaning, but who am I to judge?
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  • HalfCollectorHalfCollector Posts: 126 ✭✭
    NGC= 53
    PCGS= 45
    Reeded Edge halves by die variety
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a terrific looking coin!

    AU50 for the services and because I like it I think 53 seems appropriate

    nice image- nice coin

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I seldom guess what the grading services graded it, but I'd give it an AU-50 with a reservation about whatever the spot is over the "R" in "LIBERTY." That could be no more than a mark on the NGC holder, but I don't know exactly what it is.
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  • cameron12xcameron12x Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭
    VERY Lovely toning... A later die state and weak strike for such toning characteristics?

    I'd say "about" XF-45 details with AU-55 toning.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I seldom guess what the grading services graded it, but I'd give it an AU-50 with a reservation about whatever the spot is over the "R" in "LIBERTY." That could be no more than a mark on the NGC holder, but I don't know exactly what it is. >>



    All that is explained in the first post. "The patch over the R in Liberty is on the slab. Scratches over the B, and across the cheek are also on the slab"
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • ElyJ83ElyJ83 Posts: 73
    AU 55
    xover - 50




    what are the results?


    >:]
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Will post the grade tonight. Any other guesses?
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    Solid EF, but has been cleaned.
  • 16DMERC16DMERC Posts: 223
    XF45 by both
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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a 55 to me at either service.

    Tom

  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    nice coin ! and a rare one too!

    au55 at pcgs , if it has not been cleaned ?
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Solid EF, but has been cleaned. >>



    Possibly an old cleaning on the reverse above the eagle. There are no hairlines on the obverse though.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS XF45
    NGC AU50 or even 53.

    Has enough luster for anyone's AU50. I think PCGS will be harder on it because of some right lower wing feather and talon weakness.
    At NGC's loosest this could have gone AU55.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold

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