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ajaanajaan Posts: 17,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
I'm trying to put together a set of well circulated classic US commemorative halves. There is a coin on eBay I am interested in. The seller says he doesn't think it is cleaned. I'm thinking it is. Any thoughts? TIA.

Isabella 25c

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'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


Don

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love circulated coinage, but think this coin is a dog that has been abused.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It needs to go back into a pocket for a long time.
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  • Toolhaus...complaints of cleaning, whizzing...etc. long list. Sty away IMHO. 40 Negatives & Neutrals plus 11 withdrawn. Mentions of overgrading and so on.



    Eric
  • Not cleaned, maybe used a sander.
  • No dont like it!!
    Positive:
    BST Transactions: DonnyJf, MrOrganic, Justanothercoinaddict, Fivecents, Slq, Jdimmick,
    Robb, Tee135, Ibzman350, Mercfan, Outhaul, Erickso1, Cugamongacoins, Indiananationals, Wayne Herndon

    Negative BST Transactions:
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can do much better by exercising patience. Not an attractive coin. Looks almost not real.
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Terrible coin. ugh. ernie. ugh
    Jim

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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But he's a: Member ANA, NENA, CONECA, JRCS, SPMC, LTS, CWTS.
    Many happy BST transactions
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    I vote Fake. The letters should not be that fat, and why does it still have a sharp wire rim with so much wear?
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ill agree with frank. that looks like its loaded with problems so move on. you can do better image best wishes
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether it's fake or not I have no idea why anyone would pay $291.00 for an Isabella quarter in that low of a grade when EF coins carry a Gray Sheet value of $350.00. Given the fact that the "old" commemorative silver series is a dead as a hammer, I would think you could pick up a decent example for not much more than $350.00.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I vote Fake. The letters should not be that fat, and why does it still have a sharp wire rim with so much wear? >>



    image to both and the hair bun is too big.

    Edited to add: Think my pattern-recognition wetware is on the fritz. Bun looks OK. Bezel accounts for rims (perhaps).

    Just an abrasively cleaned piece of (fill in your own epithet here)
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    all of the above.


    ugh.
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Toolhaus...complaints of cleaning, whizzing...etc. long list. Sty away IMHO. 40 Negatives & Neutrals plus 11 withdrawn. Mentions of overgrading and so on.

    Eric >>



    40 complaints with over 37,000 positive transactions... That's not too bad at all. Especially given all the nutjobs on eBay.

    -Paul
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  • InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭
    That particular specimen does not look original to me, and I have bought some decent specimens from that seller, notwithstanding his reputation here. You have to learn to interpret his scans. And that Izzy has been on his site/and ebay rotation for quite some time.

    You have to throw out price guides when trying to accomplish what you are doing, without going too crazy, but don't listen to me.

    I bought this one raw from ebay in auction 2008, (and sold it about 2 weeks ago image ):

    image

    Like others have said, be patient. Check TT and Heritage as well. There are some midgrade ones out there. I would say no more than a year or two wait, and for the right price.
    Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    "I'm trying to put together a set of well circulated classic US commemorative halves"

    Then why r u worried about an Isabella quarter?
  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My thoughts are that it is real and that it has been in a benzel to get that type of wear. If you look at the reeded edge in the pics there doesn't appear to be any wear.

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