Is this a fake coin in a fake slab?

EBAY # 170620278453
(sorry, could someone do the linky for me? thanks!)
(sorry, could someone do the linky for me? thanks!)

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Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Anybody notice the dhgate.com watermark? Isn't that the Chinese site notorious for counterfeit stuff?
Russ, NCNE >>
Same watermark on the other counterfeit coin that he was caught at.
Somebody must of chummed the waters.
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1142&Lot_No=3802&type=PCGS1142
"Thank you, I will lower the price".
bob
<< <i> I notified the seller that it's a fake and he replied.
"Thank you, I will lower the price". >>
What a maroon!
His fake CION isn't even the right date for the cert number.
Reduce the price, after he knows it's fake GRRRR!!!
Pandas
You should really grow up and not try to rip people off by knowingly selling counterfeit coins on eBay, which is a Federal crime (and I will report you to the feds). The dhgate watermark is one clue that the coin is a counterfeit from China. Additionally, the coin with that particular serial number was auction off in a numismatic auction and is in no way, shape, or form similar to the coin in which you have listed. Also, if you truly think someone is going to buy that for $480 and think they are getting a good deal, you are making a sad mistake. I am willing to bet, someone might buy it, but if they do, it will be used as evidence in the court of law against you for selling counterfeit coins on eBay. This does not even include the copyright infringement of the counterfeit PCGS slab.
<< <i>which is a Federal crime >>
Yes but he's not in the US. Unless the feds cared enough to ask the local mounties to get him he's pretty safe other than getting NARUed from feeBAY.
Dear mystical_science,
Iam greatly sorry. I guess I was taken. I am taking a new program that is teaching me how to dropship and i am new at this I am going to remove and discuss further actions with my coaches. Thanking you for the valuable info that is the last thing I need. Thanks
- kevinandstaceyaanestadventures
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<< <i>which is a Federal crime >>
Yes but he's not in the US. Unless the feds cared enough to ask the local mounties to get him he's pretty safe other than getting NARUed from feeBAY. >>
Correct, I just saw he is in Canada. I did not notice that until you said something about it. On the bright side, he ended his listing. Now, what is dropship program?
<< <i>Seller's response to my email is below. He took his auction down.
Dear mystical_science,
Iam greatly sorry. I guess I was taken. I am taking a new program that is teaching me how to dropship and i am new at this I am going to remove and discuss further actions with my coaches. Thanking you for the valuable info that is the last thing I need. Thanks
- kevinandstaceyaanestadventures >>
I can just imagine how that discussion will go:
"Yo coach, those creeps on that coin message board busted me on that fake slab so I had to take it down. What do I do now? This drop ship thing from that Chinese guy isn't working too good for me."
<< <i>I'm surprised PCGS doesn't have a link on this site for reporting counterfeit slabs. Don't they care? >>
I agree with you 100%. And with their market share of graded coins that appear on ebay they should have a bat phone that goes strait to ebay corporate headquarters.
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It may be part of a bigger scam.
They start their scam by offering "get rich quick doing drop ship on ebay without investing a cent, we'll show you how"
They get the "drop ship sellers" to list items then when the seller gets a paypal payment (that might be on hold) get them to pay most of the money by check or MO and keep a cut. That way later when paypal pulls the money back the "masterminds" already have their money and move on to the next "drop ship trainee" with a fresh ebay account.
Who knows?
<< <i>Pretty bad that the counterfeiters couldn't get the coin ID# right, and this seller is a piece of work to top it off. >>
The ID is actually right, I stumbled upon these coins a couple months ago. I purposely did not post them here because its leading a horse to water. Ill say this, the PCGS slabs are ridiculously cheesy looking, but the NGC slabs would fool about 99% of the people including myself
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Explain above all, this is a medal for false, because really more than value this price, this is similarity 90% silver COINS, I still have a lot of other Morgan series, trade yuan series sold, also have silver 1794 1795 1796 U.S. silver, and various other countries of silver, need to seek advice from me, a lot of EBAY sellers are here with me, and then buy goods on EBAY above sell, thank you.
Various PCGS box silver COINS, could start to contact with me.
EBAY sellers long-term supplier of coins, all silver, all kinds of PCGS coin boxes, each one can be sold in EBAY at least $ 1,500 above the above need, please contact me.EBAY sellers long-term supplier of coins, all silver, all kinds of PCGS coin boxes, each one can be sold in EBAY at least $ 1,500 above the above need, please contact me.
<< <i>The ebay seller knows EXACTLY that they are selling fake coins, because their supplier's website says...
welcome to my store (wggwfn)
view all the hot items
Explain above all, this is a medal for false, because really more than value this price, this is similarity 90% silver COINS, I still have a lot of other Morgan series, trade yuan series sold, also have silver 1794 1795 1796 U.S. silver, and various other countries of silver, need to seek advice from me, a lot of EBAY sellers are here with me, and then buy goods on EBAY above sell, thank you.
Various PCGS box silver COINS, could start to contact with me.
EBAY sellers long-term supplier of coins, all silver, all kinds of PCGS coin boxes, each one can be sold in EBAY at least $ 1,500 above the above need, please contact me.EBAY sellers long-term supplier of coins, all silver, all kinds of PCGS coin boxes, each one can be sold in EBAY at least $ 1,500 above the above need, please contact me. >>
Nice observation Frank, but you must not have looked at many because some of them actually say that they are real.
<< <i>Seller's response to my email is below. He took his auction down.
Dear mystical_science,
Iam greatly sorry. I guess I was taken. I am taking a new program that is teaching me how to dropship and i am new at this I am going to remove and discuss further actions with my coaches. Thanking you for the valuable info that is the last thing I need. Thanks
- kevinandstaceyaanestadventures >>
hes speaking of coaches from china who recruited him, wow i heard of this but heres the prime example
good catch rich!
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Your terms:$8.50 is a good price for a counterfeit coin in a counterfeit holder. Please accept! I'd like to use this as training material!
Offer expires:Mar-27-11 14:16:22 PDT
Your offer price:US $8.50
Seller terms:would love to sell it for that but i paid 100 times that I guess I got took on this coin thanks for your info.
BIN price:US $480.00