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If I post a picture of a coin here, is it okay for another memeber to repost it in another thread?

I ran across another member posting a scan of a coin I found, without asking nor attributing it to me, is that okay? Once I post picture here, is it no longer my image but the boards?

I had a rare Jefferson nickel I searched years for, YEARS and when I located an example out of a bag of coins I came here to brag. Fast forward a few years later and a thread was created about how to identify a variety by a die marker. The die marker isn't exactly a secret, but is only mentioned really in specialty books. Without notice or attribution the board member posted my coin and shared the PUP with everyone. I do cherry pick die varieties from dealers, but in doing this he showed some of the dealers I do frequent how to identify the variety so it no longer become for sale. It is done and not going to cry over spilled milk but was the image mine to say yes or no to?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no idea what the legal guidelines are, but I believe somewhere in the TOS for the use of the boards there is something that states any images you post can be used by PCGS and this might extend to others, too.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As far as I'm concerned, anything posted here once is fair game for other threads
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK as long as not used for commercial gain by another party.

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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    OK as long as not used for commercial gain by another party.


    agree.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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  • Presumably the pic was initially posted to educate , now it's being used as an educational tool. The rest gets hazy..courtesy and public domain etc etc
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I'll share anything I have on me! image
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    You can always include a tag line in the photo to take credit for it. The images on my website all have a tag line. I know others are using some of them, but at least they can be identified as belonging to the website.

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  • << <i>As far as I'm concerned, anything posted here once is fair game for other threads >>



    I agree. I don't see the big deal about this...only that the other member could have at least given you credit or referenced your previous thread in their thread.
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    The few times I have posted other peoples pics I have (1) given them credit in the post and (2) Pm'd them telling them I had and offering to take it down if they wished.
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't mind.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What can you do about it anyway? I mean really, I would imagine, nothing? With out lawyers getting involved. I'm asking and not trying to sound sarcastic about it but just about anyone can copy and paste pics, and they do. Perhaps if it's important to you, you should attach your name to them. Just an idea....Joe
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it is something you will cry about later, then never post a picture.
    If you post a picture to brag, then that is the value you put on it.
    If you post a picture to teach, then it shouldn't matter, as long as someone else isn't selling the picture.

    It would make sense for most websites to have a statement, somewhere along the lines of joining up, that posted pictures either become the right of that website or else can be reused on that website without notice.
    Don't post in the public domain what you don't want shared.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Speaking of purloined photos, I was just going back through PM history to research a past transaction with adamlaneus. (I sold him one of my favorite Roman coins three years back, and now I want to see if he'll sell it back to me.)

    Anyway, while scrolling back through our PM history, I saw this picture (presumably his), and it made me ROFL. image



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  • Not crying, not complaining, it is what it is, just wondered if it was supposed to be attributed to the photographer or if it was copyrighted. Don't read to much into this and make it a flame thread. Geez fellaimage
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
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  • MaineJimMaineJim Posts: 764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You post a photo and it can usually be found with a google search if you place any tags with it. Not sure if it qualifies as being in the public domain but pretty darn close. If I copied a photo from a post on this site to a new thread on this site I would link the thread.

    Maine_Jim
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was under the assumption that any images posted here are fair game. You often see persons using the quote bar to complement others coins ot to add comments.
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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes

    Gig em - '96
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    Fair game! Never post pics or tell something you never want re used.
    Mark
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It happens but most of the time they will ask if it's Ok. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • TrustNo1TrustNo1 Posts: 1,359
    the person who re-posted here may have took it from web by someone else who found it with a google search. edited to to add: especially years after you first posted it.
  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aside from being legal or not legal "TexasNationals"...I almost bet if you were asked you would have most likely granted permission...But in my opinion it would have been common courtesy and good educate to have asked you first...But like others have said the pic is out to the public once you post...

    ABimage
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    As far as I am concerned anything I post can be used by others.

    share and share alike

    Just do not use my pics to sell fictious stuf on ebay
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OK as long as not used for commercial gain by another party.


    agree. >>




    And as long as everyone has their clothes on. image
  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Speaking of purloined photos, I was just going back through PM history to research a past transaction with adamlaneus. (I sold him one of my favorite Roman coins three years back, and now I want to see if he'll sell it back to me.)

    Anyway, while scrolling back through our PM history, I saw this picture (presumably his), and it made me ROFL. image



    image >>





    Lord, can I use that photo as a night light??

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    My opinion is the tone of the new post. If the pic was used in a non-negative manner, I'd say ok. If it was used in a way that might reflect negatively, then not cool but probably not illegal.

    Now if the coin is for sale or very valuable and someday might be for sale, then re-using it and spreading it across the internet might be by nature negative.

    That is why some sellers say "picture on request". They may have had this happen, a thread get started, and a "fresh" coin they were selling go viral.

    --jerry
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a pretty murky area. From what I read here, photographs are copyright protected. Displaying them in a public manner, whether it's on the Internet or in a museum, does not void ownership of the copyright.

    One problem is that technology is moving faster than legislation. So a lot of questions are unanswered. Like, is it okay to display a picture you took of a coin you no longer own?

    Personally, I enjoy shooting photos and sharing them so no biggie to me. But Ansel Adams may have issues if you copy and print his photos for display in your home or office, and I get that.
    Lance.
  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One problem is that technology is moving faster than legislation. So a lot of questions are unanswered. Like, is it okay to display a picture you took of a coin you no longer own?. >>



    This one seems like a no-brainer. Still your picture unless you work something out with transferring the rights along with the coin.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Don't let it bother you.image

    A couple of years ago I posted a scan of an overlay of Morgan clashes. A while later I joined another group and reposted the scan. A member of that group thought I had stolen his scan, but in reality, he had stolen mine.....image So, if you are going to use someone elses pics try not to forget where you got them.image
    Becky
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Speaking of purloined photos, I was just going back through PM history to research a past transaction with adamlaneus. (I sold him one of my favorite Roman coins three years back, and now I want to see if he'll sell it back to me.)

    Anyway, while scrolling back through our PM history, I saw this picture (presumably his), and it made me ROFL. image



    image >>





    Lord, can I use that photo as a night light?? >>




    Please excuse may ignorance but what kind of grade is a MS-420 ? I've never even seen that before....Just wondering?? Does it have something to do with the marijuana smoke day 4/20?....image
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I ran across another member posting a scan of a coin I found, without asking nor attributing it to me, is that okay? Once I post picture here, is it no longer my image but the boards? >>



    It depends. Were they (a) simply linking your site and using your hosted picture in their post, or did they (b) copy the picture from you, host it themselves, and post it as if it were theirs? To me, there's a subtle but important difference. If it were the former, they were perhaps in bad taste for not asking your permission. If it were the latter, I would say you have a good argument for copyright infringement.

    All that said, it is my opinion, that PCGS' term related to the posting of pictures on this forum only applies to pictures uploaded to PCGS and/or for which the owner has a right to duplicate and retransmit. Simple {IMG} links are not necessarily free for their use and duplication because the owner of said pictures (rather than the poster) may have not agreed to the terms of the PCGS agreement. If the owner has an argument with PCGS or the person who reposted their pics is debatable, but if the owner of said works did not grant the poster the right to redistribute they have a very good argument for copyright infringement, IMO of course.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • For the record, any picture I post here may be re posted with our without the written expressed consent of the Jeff Coin Collection. Un-authorized reproduction or retransmission of said picture is not punishable by a fine nor time in federal prison! I do like Corona light beer though if your so inclined at the next show.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Good one TN.... It would seem there are some very AR (anal retentive) individuals and a simple post turns into a major affair - hmmmm... seems quite common here actually....image Cheers, RickO
  • Unless you have exclusive copyright to the image, it can be used by anyone.
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    .........any image on these boards is for sharing

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