1970-S Lincoln's Small or large date help please

coinsarefun · February 16, 2011 12:10PM

Are these both large dates or small.......or one of each?

As many times I look at them I still get them confused!

Julian · February 16, 2011 12:13PM

I believe that the SD's have a weak E in Liberty. Check that out.

TWQG · February 16, 2011 12:19PM

Both are large dates, sorry.

coinsarefun · February 16, 2011 12:19PM

<< I believe that the SD's have a weak E in Liberty. Check that out. >>

Neither look weak to me

Batman23 · February 16, 2011 12:23PM

<< Both are large dates, sorry. >>

coinsarefun · February 16, 2011 12:26PM

Yep, I figured........no cherry picking today

Thanks guys

Tdec1000 · February 16, 2011 12:28PM

Get a close up of liberty. It is actually ERTY what is weak/mushy.

Tom

GrumpyEd · February 16, 2011 12:30PM

Right side is a large date

Left side has a lot of glare in the pic but I thinks it's also large.

The small dates have a weak BERTY of LIBERTY, most large dates are stronger
Small dates have a point on the inside curl of 9 (the glare hides it on the left) (BEST WAY TO TELL)
Small dates have an egg shaped ball on the 9
The date is more level on the small dates but not perfectly level and this is hard to use to tell
Large dates have a bump on the top of the 0 of the date
Large dates have a blunt end on the inside curl of 9
Large dates have a rounder ball on the 9
Large dates have a crease in the corner of the 7

MsMorrisine · February 16, 2011 12:43PM

The red book has them listed as Sm Date (high 7) and Large Date (Low 7)

both of those look like low 7's (thus large date) to me.

of course I'm still learning, myself.

coinsarefun · February 16, 2011 12:44PM

<< Right side is a large date

Left side has a lot of glare in the pic but I thinks it's also large.

The small dates have a weak BERTY of LIBERTY, most large dates are stronger
Small dates have a point on the inside curl of 9 (the glare hides it on the left) (BEST WAY TO TELL)
Small dates have an egg shaped ball on the 9
The date is more level on the small dates but not perfectly level and this is hard to use to tell
Large dates have a bump on the top of the 0 of the date
Large dates have a blunt end on the inside curl of 9
Large dates have a rounder ball on the 9
Large dates have a crease in the corner of the 7 >>

No wonder why I get them confused...............way too much to remember

I think they both are big, here they are side by side

ArizonaJack · February 16, 2011 12:44PM

Both large dates

MsMorrisine · February 16, 2011 12:58PM

nice toning effect....

coinsarefun · February 16, 2011 1:01PM

<< nice toning effect....

>>

Ya, but not worth much as a large date

lordmarcovan · February 16, 2011 1:07PM

<< As many times I look at them I still get them confused! >>

You're not alone. I believe the person who discovered these varieties had way too much time on his hands (then again, I suppose you can say that about most people who discover tiny die varieties).

I think the Small Date/Large Date varieties are like those "magic picture" posters you have to squint at a certain way- I never could see those, either.

toyz4geo · February 16, 2011 1:43PM

Besides the weak LIBERTY which gets weaker from left to right, you can also check the loop of the 9. On the small date, the loop of the 9 points to the right but on the large date the loop points more toward the mintmark. Compare the pic below to the ones you have. Hope this helps and good hunting.

GrumpyEd · February 16, 2011 1:54PM

Yes both are large

On the pic from toys4geo you can clearly see the point on the inside curl and how the ball of the 9 is egg shaped. (small date)
That point is the best way to tell on these, the large dates are not pointed like that. Also if you look at the 0 in that photo it has no bump on the top and compare it to the original coins in the thread you can see the bump on the top of the 0. (large dates)

Tdec1000 · February 16, 2011 2:01PM

<< Both large dates >>

Yes! AJ is correct!

Bigrig52 · February 16, 2011 11:57PM

Both large dates

tahoe98 · February 17, 2011 1:07AM

...this should help ya'

DIMEMAN · February 17, 2011 1:15AM

They are both large date.

The easy way to tell is the where the inner loop of the 9 points. Like someone already posted and showed a pic.

Aren't varieties neat!

mgoodm3 · February 17, 2011 1:17AM

Small date = level 7 = the top of the 7 and the 0 are at the same level.

DIMEMAN · February 17, 2011 1:19AM

After looking at the two again. I think the one one the left is the small date.

tahoe98 · February 17, 2011 4:03AM

...all you need to do stef is read the link i posted.

MsMorrisine · February 17, 2011 4:09AM

stef needs a sm date to keep as a reference.

tahoe98 · February 17, 2011 5:24AM

...but in the meantime...................................

MsMorrisine · February 17, 2011 5:52AM

<< ...but in the meantime................................... >>

I look forward to your sm date giveaway thread!

tahoe98 · February 17, 2011 5:55AM

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ziggy29 · February 17, 2011 12:22PM

<< Small date = level 7 = the top of the 7 and the 0 are at the same level. >>

That's how I learned it looking through many rolls as a kid: If you extended the horizontal bar in the '7' digit toward the zero, if that imaginary line cut into the zero, it's a large date. If it rested on top of the zero, it's a small date.

1970-S Lincoln's Small or large date help please

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