Right now at this point concerning trade dollars,i would not buy one for $1.00 because of the fact that these coins have been counterfeited since the 1800's ,only way i would buy one is if it was in my hand ,under an eye loup where i could closely examine the coin before purchase ,i have seen these trade dollars ,that were in a family collection for 40 years come in and i had to tell them they were fakes=some inheritance-huh? BTW the chinese are getting really good at replicateing the Morgan dollars too they almost got the weight right=almost-
<< <i>Looks okay to me. Not the best pictures, of course.
What do you see that says it's fake? Lance. >>
everything I see says "looks real" (although 76cc has been some of the best fakes I have seen) but it would be an all new Rev die so it all but has to be fake
<< <i>Looks okay to me. Not the best pictures, of course.
What do you see that says it's fake? Lance. >>
everything I see says "looks real" (although 76cc has been some of the best fakes I have seen) but it would be an all new Rev die so it all but has to be fake >>
Sure looks to me like I/I micro cc MM, Breen 5804. All normal font date numerals That being stated, I believe it is very real.
Why do you claim it has to be an all new rev. die? The Asian forgers are prone to silly ass mistakes on obv/rev die pairings, which I don't see here. The Breen 5804 is scarce enough that the forgers aren't likely to have had a host coin for producing bogus dies.
IGWT motto looks a little funny but everything else is ok looking. That said I dont like the chances of it being real. Kinda sad that midgrade common trade dollars are almost as tough to sell as nude Roseanne Barr photos.
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Those pictures are even worse than usual.... however, as best I can see, it could be original. Usual disclaimer, in hand (or even with quality pictures) it could be a whole different animal. Cheers, RickO
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What do you see that says it's fake?
Lance.
<< <i>Looks okay to me. Not the best pictures, of course.
What do you see that says it's fake?
Lance. >>
everything I see says "looks real" (although 76cc has been some of the best fakes I have seen) but it would be an all new Rev die so it all but has to be fake
The 8 in the date is at an angle, slightly NE of vertical and I've never seen that before.
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<< <i>Looks okay to me. Not the best pictures, of course.
What do you see that says it's fake?
Lance. >>
everything I see says "looks real" (although 76cc has been some of the best fakes I have seen) but it would be an all new Rev die so it all but has to be fake >>
Sure looks to me like I/I micro cc MM, Breen 5804. All normal font date numerals That being stated, I believe it is very real.
Why do you claim it has to be an all new rev. die? The Asian forgers are prone to silly ass mistakes on obv/rev die pairings, which I don't see here. The Breen 5804 is scarce enough that the forgers aren't likely to have had a host coin for producing bogus dies.
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That said I dont like the chances of it being real. Kinda sad that midgrade common trade dollars are almost as tough to sell as nude Roseanne Barr photos.
I am pretty sure it is cleaned
a type 1 reverse but the mintmarks are too close together - almost like Morgan or half dollar spacings
the rare Breen 5804 has widely spaced CC's
Sticken to it to ,
Eagles head nearly wacked of. Dang!!
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Then it MUST be real since they assume you will keep it.
no one is buying it.
poor pictures to begin with,
what's the point of discussing it?
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