Hey error people...what do I have here???
LotsoLuck
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I was fishing through some coinage that arrived today and found this...
Stacked on top of "normal" 1964 Jefferson...
My scale registers 5 grams for the "normal" Jefferson and 3 grams for the mystery nickel.
The pics are pretty accurate, mushy strike but the legends are slightly stonger than they appear in the pics.
What say ye?
Stacked on top of "normal" 1964 Jefferson...
My scale registers 5 grams for the "normal" Jefferson and 3 grams for the mystery nickel.
The pics are pretty accurate, mushy strike but the legends are slightly stonger than they appear in the pics.
What say ye?
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-Paul
2 1/2 cents.........
i say it is a coin that rolled in a dryer for a long time.
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
The coin is the result of 'acid treating',
or 'chemical treatment'.
It's not from "Rollin' & A Tumblin'"
(by Bob Hyte)
<< <i>It exfoliated with acid!
Man, that one good eye looks right at you... creeps me out
"60's" reference ----
"Rollin' & Tumblin' was a
great song by Canned Heat !
In chemistry we did simple experiments, I choose nitric acid and it’s effects on various metals. The samples were small strips iron, copper, nickel, lead and these coupons were embossed with Periodic Table symbol and were handled with tweezers as to not to contaminate the surfaces with human skin oils.
With stop watch, clip board, neutralizing water, acid concentration levels recorded, weight scales and litmus paper, each coupon was immersed into the acid and observed. The samples were removed at a specified time, neutralized, then re-weighed to calculate loss.
What was amazing is the embossed letters like Cu, Pb were still legible on the acid immersed samples. Although a little bit weaker on some metals, the acid ate away the surface evenly, in other words, the raised letters lost metal as evenly as the surrounding flat areas.
The nickel (Ni) sample obeyed the effects of the nitric acid but to a lesser extent. The embossed Ni was still there, the edges were a bit less, I wished we would have measured the thickness with a micrometer, but there was a bit of crust that would have interfered with an accurate measurement.
Anyway, looking at your nickel, it has the same appearance as the sample of nickel that was immersed in acid, so my conclusion is at least a 50% chance that is what has occurred here.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
is there any way to specifically rule out that it was struck on a small planchet with one or two observations?
(besides the fact that it looks like an acid washed coin)
I'm not doubting, just looking for a "tell."
<< <i>A Timothy Leary nickel. >>
That one took a second!
is there any way to specifically rule out that it was struck on a small planchet with one or two observations? (besides the fact that it looks like an acid washed coin)
I'm not doubting, just looking for a "tell."
If it was struck on a smaller thinner planchet, I would expect the details to be actually very sharp and not washed out (unless the "error" planchet was made of a harder material, but a 1964 Jefferson 75% copper and 25% nickel, is pretty hard) .
This is because the dies would have been set at a higher striking pressure, because the standard nickel is thicker, so harder to strike on.
I was thinking something like that but wasn't sure.
I especially note the lack of details in the reverse.
<< <i>In case anyone missed the
"60's" reference ----
"Rollin' & Tumblin' was a
great song by Canned Heat ! >>
Fred, let's work together on this...OK?
<< <i>I was fishing through some coinage that arrived today and found this...
My scale registers 5 grams for the "normal" Jefferson and 3 grams for the mystery nickel.
The pics are pretty accurate, mushy strike but the legends are slightly stonger than they appear in the pics.
What say ye? >>
Post Mint Damage. No error. I agree with the acid statement.
weighs 40% less than a normal nickel ?
Acid/Chemicals dissolved 40% of the metal
from the coin - obv., rev., and edge.
That's why the coin is thinner, smaller in
diameter, and has the 'mushy' surfaces
that ALL acid treated coins have after a
harsh chemical is applied to the metal.
This type of coin is so common, you wouldn't
believe how many letters, emails, phone calls,
and coin show attendee's have them.
I know some of you would like to think there's
a possibility that it's something else, but it's not.