A fool and his money...

UtahCoin · February 14, 2011 11:51PM

I just can't believe people swallow hogwash. eBay link

mbogoman · February 14, 2011 11:55PM

But, but, but...it's a roll from the San Francisco Fed, and it's never been searched, so they must all be S VDBs!!! It's a steal!!!

NOT!!!

llafoe · February 15, 2011 12:02AM

What about my money?

CaptHenway · February 15, 2011 12:04AM

Let's see......the Federal Reserve Bank was created in 1913.......

taxmad · February 15, 2011 12:11AM

Even if the entire roll were 1909 VDB's with no 'S' wouldn't $300 be a good buy?

CaptHenway · February 15, 2011 12:24AM

<< Even if the entire roll were 1909 VDB's with no 'S' wouldn't $300 be a good buy? >>

Who knows what else is in that roll? Look at how shiny the alleged "end coins" are. Those have not been exposed to the atmosphere for 101+ years. It is obviously a put-together roll.

TD

dsessom · February 15, 2011 12:25AM

If a roll of uncirculated cents sat for 102 years, the END coins cirtainly wouldn't be bright RED. Come on...
The ones toward the center, possibly. The end coins, no way.

truecollector70 · February 15, 2011 12:28AM

This is what a buyer found in that same type of roll.......

Negative feedback rating ENDS 1909 VDB BU REST MOSTLY 40'S 50'S SALTED 13 50'S 19 40'S 6 30'S 5 20'S 3 10 Buyer:

OBW ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS (#280613888552) US $166.05

SamByrd · February 15, 2011 2:09AM

I am sure its a great deal. The 4 neutral and 3 negs the sellers has received alone from the same scam make me positive that this roll is a great deal.

taxmad · February 15, 2011 2:26AM

Might be a stupid question (to go along with my earlier one) but can these types of rolls (shotgun ends) still be produced?

kurtdog · February 15, 2011 2:34AM

I'll bet these bidders are thinking they're going to score one of those 1959 wheat pennies.

rhedden · February 15, 2011 2:40AM

Love the faux San Francisco labels on the rolls. I wonder where he bought the rubber stamp to make those rolls?

crazyhounddog · February 15, 2011 2:41AM

Russ · February 15, 2011 2:47AM

An excellent example of the reality that buyers pay very little attention to feedback. So, sellers, the next time you get a neg or neutral don't go off the deep end worrying about it.

Russ, NCNE

ziggy29 · February 15, 2011 2:50AM

I don't generally play "eBay cop", but isn't it against the rules to suggest that you "might" find an '09-S VDB in here?

vibr0nic · February 15, 2011 2:50AM

Everyone involved sucks here.

The seller for the cleverly written, misleading listing.

The buyer for not taking 2 minutes to check a little feedback.

OchoReales · February 15, 2011 2:59AM

It IS interesting that the fools who bid on these do not take the time to see other OBW rolls with 09VDB's on either end having been sold by the seller already! BTW the seller, noahdubois32 misplelled his name. I believe it is supposed to be no im dubious!

okracer · February 15, 2011 3:15AM

One buyer did give this feedback....but I am skeptical.....

"waiting for the new year to open!!!!!!!!!!! Member id luxsoap1 ( Feedback Score Of 145) Dec-20-10 14:05
OLD ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS (#280599661710) US $185.49 View Item OLD ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS

can't wait to explore this roll Member id luxsoap1 ( Feedback Score Of 145) Dec-20-10 14:05
OLD ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS (#280600349169) US $108.51 View Item OLD ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS

I found 2 1909-S, DVB, what can I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Member id luxsoap1 ( Feedback Score Of 145) Dec-20-10 14:05
Reply by noahdubois32 (Dec-20-10 14:41):
Great news TWO BIG KEY DATES FOUND

OLD ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS (#280600348439) US $123.71 View Item OLD ROLL LINCOLN WHEAT CENT PENNY 1909 VDB'S BOTH ENDS "

57loaded · February 15, 2011 3:22AM

<< Might be a stupid question (to go along with my earlier one) but can these types of rolls (shotgun ends) still be produced? >>

OBW's don't look "scrunched" like in one of the photos

johnny9434 · February 15, 2011 3:39AM

<< I just can't believe people swallow hogwash. eBay link >>

they will, all day long

Juan · February 15, 2011 3:46AM

All the rolls like this on Ebay are searched and none live up to the buyer's expectations. It's a rip.

BillJones · February 15, 2011 3:52AM

If the roll was really from 1909, the wrapper looks awfully fresh. The coin roll paper back then would not look that good today … if they were rolling cents back then. I also don’t think that they were using the machine rolled technology that you see here. The ends of the roll would be folded over, like you see for the wrappers the bank gives out to customers.

Here’s a chilling thought. Perhaps this is the reverse of a Chinese counterfeit. One of the scary things about the Chinese junk is that they are copying common coins along with the rarities. One of the great fears is that they will ruin the hobby from the bottom by distributing the common stuff that less sophisticated collectors buy.

Look at it this way. Would you sell a roll of BU 1909-VDB cents for a little over $6 a throw when MS-60 coins are on the Gray Sheet of $18.50?

BigRick · February 15, 2011 5:33AM

Looks like decent 64RD's on the ends. If were all '09 VDB's it's a steal (even if no DDO's) as there are sure to be at least some DDO's (probably Die 2) in there.

The last roll (of original '09 VDB's) went for near $11k a few years ago (idiot me passed at $5,500 BEFORE the seller realized how mony DDO'[s there were) & had about 15-20 DDO's.

Of course I have no way to know what's in HIS roll & I assume it's neither unsearched nor all '09-VDB's

pocketpiececommems · February 15, 2011 5:46AM

And what are the chances of all the rolls that he sells that VDB is showing at both ends and nothing in the middle

I'm sure that it's just random chance.

relicsncoins · February 15, 2011 5:50AM

Take two $10 coins and put them on the ends and fill the rest of the roll with EF 40's and 50's Wheats, and sell if for $300 plus..................Genius.

Tdec1000 · February 15, 2011 5:53AM

Someone report this idiot! Get him NARUd

DNADave · February 15, 2011 7:29AM

It's just a fantasy roll. They were never really produced this way so it's AAAAAAAAAAAAA OK

djdilliodon · February 15, 2011 7:39AM

It amazes me that so many collectors buy into scams like this.

Outhaul · February 15, 2011 7:44AM

He doesn't state that it's an entire roll of VDBs.

Still, he's scum.

wayneherndon · February 15, 2011 8:00AM

The Federal Reserve system was not created until 1913. This type of machine wrapped roll was not used until the 1930s or 1940s. So, clearly the roll is "made up". The VDBs on the end combined with the San Francisco wrapper is intended to deceive.

WH

DNADave · February 15, 2011 11:16AM

<< It's just a fantasy roll. They were never really produced this way so it's AAAAAAAAAAAAA OK

>>

awww, come on ! This would have been open forum gold I tell ya'.

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rld14 · February 15, 2011 11:57AM

People (Collectively) are idiots. This is no surprise.

Seller is quite clever, if rather unethical. My Uncle had a GREAT saying... you only get ****ed if you're ****able.

AMRC · February 15, 2011 12:08PM

Shoot, I missed it!

GrumpyEd · February 15, 2011 12:26PM

It's like an online IQ test for bidders and they flunked.

stevek · February 15, 2011 1:23PM

Should ask him if he's got the Golden Gate Bridge for sale as well?

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GrumpyEd · February 15, 2011 1:57PM

<< I found 2 1909-S, DVB >>

Those DVBs are rare

I always wonder if these folks don't salt some rolls with cheap fakes. The buyers aren't likely to look their "gift horse" too closely before they give feedback.

droopyd · February 15, 2011 3:55PM

<< Let's see......the Federal Reserve Bank was created in 1913....... >>

My first thought.

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PerryHall · February 15, 2011 9:47PM

It would be funny if a shill won it and said that he found three 1909-svdb's in the roll in his feedback.

A fool and his money...

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