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thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
Apart from the coin's actual value, is there any significant additional collector value connected with an Accugrade holder (that includes the coin's photo and a "strike, surface" numerical guide on the back of the slab) or are they just worthless, third-world, slabs?
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll use your words...."worthless, third-world slabs".
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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    There is no guarantee and they are not respected by the numismatic hobby.

    There is no additional value to coins that are encapsulated by Accugrade. Perhaps some day for slab collectors, but not for numismatists, IMHO.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am very happy to say I have none of them.
    And would not even pay the postage to have a gift one sent to me.
    I think you understand.
    That as long as the coin has some melt value that is all you can determine.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I have an accugrade slab that contains a 1927-D Lincoln that is in my opinion recolored. I puchased it around 12 years ago and keep it simply as a curiosity although I'd LOVE to recoup my money.

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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A coin is worth exactly what you think it is worth. Plastic adds no value at all. If someone offers me a coin that is in PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ACG plastic or anyother plastic for 3 bucks and I think its worth 3 bucks I'm a buyer.

    With that said I do have a couple of coins in ACG plastic. I damn sure did not buy the plastic and ACG did not mint the coins.

    Ken

  • I have a couple hundred of the slabs. However, they're all MS/Pf Bullion Canadian coins I picked up for less than melt a number of yrs back. They might not be respected, but they're doing a great job keeping the dust off the coins.
  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    when I 1st started collecting slabbed coins.I had some accugrades...then I came here and learned the difference...I dont own any now
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I figured that the grade listed on them probably was inaccurate but wondered whether the slab itself was collectible. My suspicion has been confirmed. Thanks.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to honestly state that I laugh inside at any dealer I see selling these. And, there is at least one or two at every show here......same coin each time.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to honestly state that I laugh inside at any dealer I see selling these. And, there is at least one or two at every show here......same coin each time. >>



    You saw it a Kent too...................
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have to honestly state that I laugh inside at any dealer I see selling these. And, there is at least one or two at every show here......same coin each time. >>



    You saw it a Kent too................... >>



    It's always there.....I assume you mean John's case, right? There are 1 or two that have them at the "larger" shows around here, but John is at ALL the shows and ALWAYS has that one sitting there.
    I asked him about it once, nicely and seeing what value he had on it.....he actually wanted full grade pricing (this was about 4 years ago).

    I hardly ever see John sell much....a few small things here or there, but his inventory doesn't seem to turnover from show to show, year to year....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
    The Accugrade photo slabs from the mid 80s are collectible and the coins graded about right.

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  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There is no guarantee and they are not respected by the numismatic hobby.

    There is no additional value to coins that are encapsulated by Accugrade. Perhaps some day for slab collectors, but not for numismatists, IMHO. >>



    well said
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Yuck!
  • Buy it like it's raw.
  • Buy all coins like they are raw! What has this hobby become? There was a time before PCGS, NGC, ACG, ANACS and everyone else and those people from that time built some of the best sets ever.
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah...yeah...that's the ticket...garbage.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I figured that the grade listed on them probably was inaccurate but wondered whether the slab itself was collectible. My suspicion has been confirmed. Thanks. >>



    Actually, the large accugrade slabs with the photo made in the large mid 1980's with Accugrade of Connecticut on the reverse side are now beginning to see some interest as curiosity/collectible plastic slabs. Of course, the coins within them should be very inexpensive.

    Accugrade sample slabs have garnered growing collector interest in the last few years.
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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I "did an ACG" as a giveaway and think it was pretty spot on, they are hit and miss IMHO. image




  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Always look at the coin first and not the holder. ACG is known mostly for inaccurate grading but I have in the past scored some (very good) upgrades from ACG to PCGS and NGC.
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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"This is a PCGS forum. Posts promoting or bashing other grading companies or service are not allowed. Those posts will be removed and your posting privileges may be removed as well. "
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Accugrade photo slabs from the mid 80s are collectible and the coins graded about right. >>



    Agree. The early ACG coins that I've seen were properly graded in almost all cases. Sometimes you just have to actually look at the coin inside the slab to do a proper evaluation. Also it's rare to see the old ACG photo slabs anymore so I have to asuume they are quite scarce. I was only able to find one for my collection and I definitely will not be cracking it out.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I was a dealer I did not want those holders in my case. Though my years in business I bought one piece, a Hard Times token, in an ACG slab. The piece was properly graded and attributed, but I cracked it out and sold it raw .
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"This is a PCGS forum. Posts promoting or bashing other grading companies or service are not allowed. Those posts will be removed and your posting privileges may be removed as well. "
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    Officer, can I have your badge number, please?

    (edited for typo)
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Alan Hager--Man of Steal >>



    Is he still dealing coins? If he is, can we assume that he can still slab coins for his own inventory? There are a lot of new collectors that are unaware of his history.

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  • << <i>

    << <i>Alan Hager--Man of Steal >>



    Is he still dealing coins? If he is, can we assume that he can still slab coins for his own inventory? There are a lot of new collectors that are unaware of his history. >>



    AH
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Alan Hager--Man of Steal >>



    Is he still dealing coins? If he is, can we assume that he can still slab coins for his own inventory? There are a lot of new collectors that are unaware of his history. >>



    AH >>



    "GOTJA COLLECTIBLES"---How appropriate.image

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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    the ACG slabs are really good in one respect that I have found. I used to have this chest of drawers that had a warped leg in the back. Well, the ACG slab that I was given as a joke really fit the bill. The dresser was level and really the slab performed very well. The leg rested perfect on the ACG slab. The plastic is pretty decent and I really recommend ACG slabs for such uses.image
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AH...'a legend in his own mind'.

    He used to do a few coin shows here in Toronto Canada.

    One thing about AH, no matter where you're standing in a coin show, or no matter how far away you are from him, you can always make out every word of his conversations (especially when he's talking about himself).
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  • they couldn't spell or grade..........IMHO

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    the slab that sparked my interest in error slabs.



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