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The HOLY GRAIL of Lincoln Cents is now available in a public auction

Unheard of. Talked about with solemn whispers in the backroom of coin shops. Rumored to exist but not seen. That is, until now.

PCGS Documented and Certified POPULATION One Lincoln Penny

Who knew such a beauty existed? I had to open and refresh the auction page twice before I could believe it.

Does a rarer and more fine of a copper cent exist?
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are definitely other pop 1 Lincoln cents out there, so they would be equally as "rare"

    But I agree that this one here is a pretty coin. I have no idea if the price is appropriate, but at least a "best offer" option is available if you think it's too high.
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wow
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is so silly. You can get a great example in MS 67 for less than $100.

    Why anyone would spend that kind of money for a (grade) is beyond me.
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I would prefer to have the 1919 MS69 Red Lincoln Cent instead of the coin up for auction.
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    Halfhunter06Halfhunter06 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭
    Hehe, i will just get a 67 for 80-100 bucks
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a 67, think I paid $50 bucks for it.
    35K is a stretch, sure will suck when the zinc core
    rusts away, and the cent just crumbles. What happens when one of the hundreds
    of 68's gets resubmitted and comes back a 9? image
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think I would prefer to have the 1919 MS69 Red Lincoln Cent instead of the coin up for auction. >>


    The list of coins that I would prefer to have instead of the coin up for auction is...long.
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    coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Amazing that anyone has a coin like that and doesn't even know the proper name for it. It's not a "double die" - it's a "doubled die".

    Pet peeve.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I owned a PCGS MS-68 RD example for a while, which I sold a few years ago for around $150. I understand why a hard-core registry collector would shell out the $$$ for the highest graded example, though. I do believe that there are other 69-worthy coins out there that haven't been submitted.

    Show me a PCGS MS-69RD 1917, 1955, or 1969-S DDO, and I'll get excited.
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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    I think it's nice but way too high.

    I love Lincolns and mostly Lincoln varieties but I can't see paying that much to upgrade my MS68 red that's worth maybe $200 by one grade.

    For that price I'd rather have a super nice (or a few) 1955 DDOs or a 1969-S DDO.

    There have been some NGC 69 reds on ebay for a few thousand $ and I scoffed because if those would cross to PCGS they probably would have already been done and if they don't they're like the PCGS 68 reds but 10X the price.

    Zincolns are so reactive, no telling if that coin will someday turn just enough to bump it by one grade.

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    << <i>I think I would prefer to have the 1919 MS69 Red Lincoln Cent instead of the coin up for auction. >>



    If I had 70 grand, how about both? They would make a fine display side by side.
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ROTFLMAO.
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    coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    Holy Grail?

    That coin is not even on my wish list

    If I wanted one I guess I would settle for an MS68 for less than $200.
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Seller isn't getting a lot of lovin'. The coin has been listed for over six months.

    Russ, NCNE
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone won the grading lotto with that coin. If it goes the true auction venue I'd bet it sells for less than 15k. Calling it the Holy Grail is a bit overzealous imho!! Nice coin but as mentioned they are prone to spotting and I'd bet the pop 1 status is temporary.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


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    It's a 95 DDO in PCGS MS69.

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    SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think I would prefer to have the 1919 MS69 Red Lincoln Cent instead of the coin up for auction. >>



    If I had 70 grand, how about both? They would make a fine display side by side. >>



    I doubt very much if you could prey the 1919 away from Stewart to $35k or even $100k. My 1995DD was acquired a number of years ago as a MS67RD for less than .2% of the current asking price. And that coin ain't no "holy grail" either!
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Amazing that anyone has a coin like that and doesn't even know the proper name for it. It's not a "double die" - it's a "doubled die".

    Pet peeve. >>



    ...i agree! i was wondering if anyone was observing that. image
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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭✭
    $35,000 for a penny and the guy can't even throw in free shipping?
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    25 bucks raw baby
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shortly after the 1995 DDO's were discovered, I was at a major show and one dealer had 2 cases of nothing but slabbed 1995 DDO cents piled in stacks. So it wasn't a rare coin then and it isn't one now, even though it might be a grade rarity. Now the 1995-D DDO, that is far, far rarer than the 1995 DDO cent, probably at least 100 times rarer.

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Unheard of. Talked about with solemn whispers in the backroom of coin shops. Rumored to exist but not seen. That is, until now.

    Not remotely rare. Pop 1 grade specific is common in the Lincoln series. I have several. The top sets have many. Shag
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What are the odds of this coming back 69 again if this were sent back raw with 99 other MS68's?

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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although that Lincon is nice, I don't think that anyone with common sense would pay that much for it. IMHO the 95 DDO in ms 69 is not even close to being the holy grail of Licoln Cents.
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't even pay a grand for that coin. Condition rarity moderns do absolutely nothing for me.
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,609 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Although that Lincon is nice, I don't think that anyone with common sense would pay that much for it. IMHO the 95 DDO in ms 69 is not even close to being the holy grail of Licoln Cents. >>



    It's not even the 'holy chit' of Lincoln cents. image
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    Yeah, I don't think a registry owner, even a top popper would pay 35k for that, many more points are available much cheaper. That coin will never sell for 35k, if it does, whomever is gonna have it a long time.
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    I thought I was going to see a 1974 or 1975 Aluminum cent.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    if i have to look hard just to see the doubling somewhere on the obverse i cannot
    get excited in the least. it took jrocco's pics, the size of a dinner plate, for i to spot
    it easily.

    55 ddo is soo much better. these minor ones.. yawn city.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>if i have to look hard just to see the doubling somewhere on the obverse i cannot
    get excited in the least. it took jrocco's pics, the size of a dinner plate, for i to spot
    it easily.

    55 ddo is soo much better. these minor ones.. yawn city. >>


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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Unheard of. Talked about with solemn whispers in the backroom of coin shops. Rumored to exist but not seen. That is, until now.

    PCGS Documented and Certified POPULATION One Lincoln Penny

    Who knew such a beauty existed? I had to open and refresh the auction page twice before I could believe it.

    Does a rarer and more fine of a copper cent exist? >>



    OP, are you serious? Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "Holy Grail." This boring condition rarity isn't even close.
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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh thank goodness, I threw a link in the other Holy Grail post earlier today to a Lincoln I've been chasing for 16 years (and also now up for public auction), I was worried he was attracting even more attention to it. image

    i remember finding these in Brinks rolls back in 1995 and selling them on the local bid board. The co-owner of the shop used to look them over as I sold them and he told me many times that the first one I sold there was the nicest one he'd ever seen. I kinda wish I had it back now...


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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,473 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Although that Lincon is nice, I don't think that anyone with common sense would pay that much for it. IMHO the 95 DDO in ms 69 is not even close to being the holy grail of Licoln Cents. >>



    It's not even the 'holy chit' of Lincoln cents. image >>



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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The levels of greed and stupidity in this hobby never cease to amaze me.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Unheard of. Talked about with solemn whispers in the backroom of coin shops. Rumored to exist but not seen. That is, until now.

    Not remotely rare. Pop 1 grade specific is common in the Lincoln series. I have several. The top sets have many. Shag >>

    Ditto. I'd take several $hundred for some of my pop 1 Lincolns.
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    speetyspeety Posts: 5,424


    << <i>I think I would prefer to have the 1919 MS69 Red Lincoln Cent instead of the coin up for auction. >>



    My first thought as well...
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll pass.

    If I'm going to drop that kind of money, I'd go straight out and buy Gold Bullion.

    Wait five years, then let's talk.
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First, its not the Holy Grail of Lincoln's, that would be the 1909 VDB Matte Proof.
    Second, Its a pop 1 coin NOW what about next month?
    Last, as the Price guide states, its valued at $5000. BUT, its such a common coin that others could easily be graded in the future.

    So in summary, this is not a significant coin.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,705 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    It's a 95 DDO in PCGS MS69.

    Russ, NCNE >>

    Not just MS69, Russ... MS69Red!!! image
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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I disagree that it's the holy grail of Lincolns. If it is, then I am very much disillusioned at the moment.
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    I would pay $100
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    ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    I haven't read the whole thread yet, but given the bad pics, ( why he couldn't spring for larger one's I'll never know, given the asking price. But whatever) I am concerned about the chatter I see aound the southwest area of the portrait on the obverse.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    95% hype
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At $35.000 this coin is WAY over priced because of the grade in my opinion. When the 1995 doubled die cents were first discovered, I knew a Massachusetts dealer who put together a roll of them for a customer's want list without too much trouble. The coin is not rare or even that scarce by any measure. It is just unusal because most any dramatic doubled die is a neat variety. (The powers at be don't call their "errors" any more. ) image

    I'll leave you with this cheery bit of caution. One spot and you are out of luck. This coin is coated with copper, which is unstable, over zinc, which is even more unstable. In short paying 5 figure prices for coins like this is not my idea of fun. There is just much storage risk involved.

    P.S. when I read the title of this thread I thought it was going to guide me to an offering of a 1909-VDB cent in Choice Matte Proof. Now that is a coin that's hard to find.
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    krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I don't know much about this variety, but after reading the replies I'm left to wonder exactly who thinks this is such a hot item? Lincoln collectors? Modern collectors? Registry set competitors? Error collectors?

    The coin is attractive, but it's not rare. Are there no other MS69RD cents out there? I honestly don't know if the 69RD grade is the selling point here.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>if i have to look hard just to see the doubling somewhere on the obverse i cannot
    get excited in the least. it took jrocco's pics, the size of a dinner plate, for i to spot
    it easily.

    55 ddo is soo much better. these minor ones.. yawn city. >>



    ...i think the same for the 72. image
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    DatentypeDatentype Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    Pretty decent coin and it almost looks like 69 quality but it could easily not be on another day. Looks like a lifetime DDO acheivment award grade to me. i think it is worth between $5-7K personally based on the "plastic" only, considering there are many, many ms68 coins in pcgs holders just as nice and possibly better IMHO.

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