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Real or Fake ?

EBaY # 290528104978

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Obvious fake.

    Russ, NCNE
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    USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    What are the tell tale signs of it being a fake? Not having much experience in this design and comparing it to some pictures I've seen it doesn't look bad.

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What are the tell tale signs of it being a fake? Not having much experience in this design and comparing it to some pictures I've seen it doesn't look bad.

    Thanks for the lesson! >>



    I have no idea. I just wanted to be first. image

    Might be real, but tooled. Hair looks funky.

    Russ, NCNE
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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am interested in reading how you know this is a fake.
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    IMHO, it doesn't look right. As Russ stated if it is real it has been heavily worked. I would stay away.

    Tom
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    thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To me, the hair separations and wing feathers look a little too surrealistic to be original. I've often wondered why this seller seldom, if ever, lists any certified coins, but of course that doesn't necessarily mean that they are counterfeit. I seem to recall a couple members here saying in the past that they've had good dealings with him though, but unless you're an expert on that series, I'd be careful. image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have to wonder why a coin like this is still raw.image

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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    My guess is that the coin is genuine, but has been screwed with in some way(s), as have the images.
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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best case, heavily retooled, worst case, outright fake - and I suspect the latter. Hard for me to qualify the telltale signs - I guess having seen a number of genuine ones, this just doesn't look 'right' - may be surrealistic, like thisnamztaken stated. Not sure which problem it has, but I don't eat food that smells bad, even though I don't know for sure what's wrong with it, and I don't buy coins that look bad, either image
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    Tooled hair. Very commonly done by collectors 1880-1920 era. I once saw a collection of large cents all
    bizarrely worked over.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Tooled hair. Very commonly done by collectors 1880-1920 era. I once saw a collection of large cents all
    bizarrely worked over. >>



    Yes, the coin appears to be genuine, but hair lines re-tooled. And also I believe the coin was polished at one point,
    then artificially darkened, and then lightened again on the high points.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My guess is that the coin is genuine, but has been screwed with in some way(s), as have the images. >>



    I have copied this reply onto my clipboard where I will keep it for the next thread on this seller so that I can beat Mark to the punch. image
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Tooled hair. Very commonly done by collectors 1880-1920 era. I once saw a collection of large cents all
    bizarrely worked over. >>



    Yes, the coin appears to be genuine, but hair lines re-tooled. And also I believe the coin was polished at one point,
    then artificially darkened, and then lightened again on the high points. >>



    Other than that I'd say the coin looks fine. --Jerry
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,385 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bifurcated letters image

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