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akuracy503 · January 15, 2011 4:18AM

Isn't it great how some people can degrade a members question and turn it into a spoof fest?

It's the little things like these that turn the forum sour for "serious" members who would like to have constructive discussions.

In a real world setting I highly doubt a stranger would walk up to me and degrade my comments unless they were looking to pick a battle, it really takes a lot of courage to do it over the internet doesn't it....

It really shows how big some of our members are.

hhmag70 · January 15, 2011 4:22AM

You always have options avalable to you.

Davemri · January 15, 2011 4:24AM

This forum is a shell of what it once was. That is why most of the best contributing members have move to bigger and better forums and why I hardly ever post any more. Seems like every thread is someone trying to be funny or be the big man on campus by hiding behind their computer. Obnoxious is more like it.

itzagoner · January 15, 2011 4:35AM

because who the heck knows how many more storage safety threads could be quantified as useful, when so many exist already?

it affects us all, because of the effects of overthreading.

seriously.

vladguerrero · January 15, 2011 4:36AM

I agree, which is why I never get involved in that kind of thread.

swartz1 · January 15, 2011 4:42AM

<< This forum is a shell of what it once was. That is why most of the best contributing members have move to bigger and better forums and why I hardly ever post any more. Seems like every thread is someone trying to be funny or be the big man on campus by hiding behind their computer. Obnoxious is more like it. >>

I agree with you...

it is not just the newbies either, one of the highest ranking members is guilty of this...

akuracy503 · January 15, 2011 4:45AM

I'm sure PSA intended for you guys to tell members how and what they can post so it's an efficient forum?
And posting spoofs to get your point through?

Classic case of introverted collector's who have no time to discuss nonsense...right?

akuracy503 · January 15, 2011 4:51AM

Apparently this virus is now running rampant....I believe it's time to find a new forum to join.

"Sorry to do this here guys, I have talked with some people and have looked on-line and I get different answers from both. Do you guys who line in snowy climates rake your roof or not? If so, how far? Do you rake the whole roof? Do you rake just a foot or two up from the eave? I have heard not to rake at all, I have heard only a foot (so not to go above the ice and water barrier), and I have heard to rake as much as you can reach. Wondering what you guys do?
Thanks in advance." - Downtown1974

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 4:57AM

<< Isn't it great how some people can degrade a members question >>

I did state it was O.T. I dont spoof any threads and very rarely stray away from sportscards. Just looking for some opinions on the subject.

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 5:03AM

There...I edited my post. Now maybe you can get some sleep tonight.

itzagoner · January 15, 2011 5:10AM

OP SEZ WHAT??

bobbyw8469 · January 15, 2011 5:23AM

I agree with everything you've said. It seems some members mentality is just attack, attack, attack! It makes me hesitant to post threads because I get so tired of it all.......

akuracy503 · January 15, 2011 5:29AM

Bobby, wouldnt you say that it's the few who have a problem with topics that are causing a problem with other members on these forums?

Last time I checked I still had my constitutional rights.

RipublicaninMass · January 15, 2011 5:30AM

<< I agree with everything you've said. It seems some members mentality is just attack, attack, attack! It makes me hesitant to post threads because I get so tired of it all....... >>

and other members it is to deny, deny, deny right? If you dont want to read a thread dont open it, however with the closure of the open forum, the spoofs should stay to a minimum. BTW I have only seen ONE spoof thread in quite q while, does someone have skin in this game?

akuracy503 · January 15, 2011 5:36AM

CLEARLY the problem is over population of members and over posting of both nonsense and serious subjects.
For any non member lurkers reading this you're better suited not actually becoming a member but make the search function your best friend.

A handful of members feel seniority in letting you know to shut your mouth and be careful of what you say because this is their territory.

You are not welcome here at the PSA forums.

<< because who the heck knows how many more storage safety threads could be quantified as useful, when so many exist already?

it affects us all, because of the effects of overthreading.

seriously. >>

itzagoner · January 15, 2011 5:49AM

gee. sorry. struck a nerve. please accept (except?) my humble apology.

you covered the topic of slabs and fire and safety in your very own thread a year and half ago....what's to prevent you from just renewing your own discussion?

it didn't take me but a moment to recall it was you who covered the SAME topic already.

not to play policeman. don't matter much to me, but your name is attached to several front page threads and mine is attached to a mockery.

have a laugh. it's no big deal. seriously.

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 5:52AM

Akuracy, This isn't a union house. Seniority doesn't mean anything to me. Do you really think I felt entitled to post a thread about roof rakes because I have been here for 6 years? I consider alot of people here friends, and I was seeking the advice from them. If you had a problem with it, you should have posted it directly in my thread. I just dont like the way you copied and pasted it into a thread where you are airing out your dirty laundry. Your using me as an example of whats wrong with this place?

Dear Pot, I am very sorry to start a thread that had nothing to do with sports cards and memorabilia.
Love Always, Kettle

theczar · January 15, 2011 6:04AM

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 6:17AM

I remember the time when a forum member posted a thread about losing his job. You could tell this guy was down in the dumps. Several members were very sympathetic to his situation and offered thier prayers that he would find work soon. But, seeing how it was an off-topic thread I immediately responded to him to remove that rubbish from the forum and that he better find work soon, because I refuse to support his lazy, off-topic, a$$ with my hard earned tax dollars. It was not well received by other members, but I took comfort in the fact that I had done my part to keep things on track here.

larryallen73 · January 15, 2011 7:32AM

Though I see the OP's point let's also remember this is just a baseball card message board on the internet. It's not important. Different people choose to enjoy their hobby in different ways. Some people are jerks and some people have thin skins (I am guilty of both at different times). Some people like indepth talks about very small points. Some people like to start threads that have been dealt with 100000 timies before before searching for the old threads. In the end it's pretty trivial in the scope of life. Probably better to ignore the jerks and threads that don't interest you. In an ideal world there would be no jerks but in the real world there are jerks. Life.

WalterSobchak · January 15, 2011 7:42AM

It hasn't quite approached "pet peeve" territory for me...... but I also do not understand why there has to be a brand new thread in the "Sports Cards & Memorabilia Forum" whenever any person anyone has ever heard of dies.

larryallen73 · January 15, 2011 7:49AM

It hasn't quite approached "pet peeve" territory for me...... but I also do not understand why there has to be a brand new thread in the "Sports Cards & Memorabilia Forum" whenever any person anyone has ever heard of dies.

I agree. I hope those threads RIP!

GooshA · January 15, 2011 7:51AM

I do not see Akuracy on the list. This is the 'OFFICIAL GLOBAL MESSAGE BOARD POLICE' list I am referring too. The moderators on this message board clean out anything considered not compliant. What is annoying to many of us is the few wannabe moderators causing annoyances by complaining about fellow member's posts and inquiries. Let it be, my man Akuracy. No one here is causing anyone actual pain. Just ignore it if you want like Larry Allen stated. I like all this stuff.

If you have a set of rules and regulations for here, you should post them. Many will listen, many will not.

MBMiller25 · January 15, 2011 8:06AM

I get where Martin is coming from 100%! This board in particular seems to go through it's ups and downs in regards to its usefulness. It seems at times, it's very good in regards to information sharing, and is the fantastic resource that it's intended for. Other times, it's like the wild wild west around here, where there is very little useful information exchanged. It's a shame that we have gotten to the point where need to comment on a thread when there is nothing relevant being added, but it happens all the time. It seems pretty simple,but if you see a post you can't add anything useful towards, maybe you should just ignore, no matter how off topic that post might be. At the end of the day, we share the same passion of cardboard. We need to remember that, and leave the chippy comments directed at one another at the door.

diamondman · January 15, 2011 8:17AM

This forum that PSA supplies to us, in my opinion is one of the best, and 99.8% of the members are good honest people.

with any forum, there will be differences of opinions and of course a few bad apples.

Since I have been on this forum, I have learned a lot of useful information about sportscards, memorabilia,coins, ebay, scam artists, reprints,counterfeits ect ect.

I also have made friends and done business with quite a few members too and it is sort of like a 2nd family to me.

I miss the open forum and would love to see it revived.

I have learned to live with the good & bad aspects of this forum and hope that it can continue without any major changes.

This would be an awful boring forum without the humor, real life experiences & the occasional blowup flame war arguments mixed in with sportscards,coins & memorabilia.

just remember sometimes the cure can be worse than the disease, the one thing that doctors need to make are immaturity pills for this forum, because I believe a lot of the problems (50% or more) that occasionally occur are due to immaturity,egos and frustration of everyday living.

Spoken words can be cruel & hurtful, so please think a little or count to 10 before posting something that might hurt or embarrass a fellow/family forum member.

this is my opinion and if anyone wants to flame away or disagree with what I have said feel free to do so (it is one of your constitutional rights) .

disclaimer; my statements are directed to all forum friends/enemies/family members even the immature little rednecks typing behind a keyboard bad butts. (humor?) oops time for me to take my meds.

grote15 · January 15, 2011 8:18AM

I think people need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and realize this is just a hobby message board. People seem to be overly sensitive these days and there seems to be one of these threads popping up every couple of months every time someone's feelings get hurt. I've been posting here regularly for five years and though there certainly are a fair share of meaningless threads, I've also learned a lot and made a number of good contacts during my time here. I think everyone needs to just lighten up, really. Just my 2 cents..

Dboneesq · January 15, 2011 8:25AM

I agree with the THREE posters above me. I have met a lot of friends on this board. I don't see why we can't share information that is O/T once in a while if we think it would be informative or put a smile one someones face.

Yes, there are IDIOTIC arguments on these boards, but the good threads HEAVILY outweigh the garbage ones.

Remember guys ... we are talking about C-A-R-D-S ... not life and death. Let's enjoy our passion about cards and not turn so many things into a pissing match.

Edited to add: THREE posters above me

detroitfan2 · January 15, 2011 8:44AM

<< 

<< Isn't it great how some people can degrade a members question >>

I did state it was O.T. I dont spoof any threads and very rarely stray away from sportscards. Just looking for some opinions on the subject. >>

If someone were to ask me to name the classiest poster on these boards, Downtown1974, you would be the first person I would name. I'm not sure I even understand the OP's point, but YOU are the last person who should be worried about the content of what you post on these boards.

WinPitcher · January 15, 2011 8:48AM

The thread in question was not a pissing match, this thread might turn into one though.

If it already hasn't

(Doug I used your word because it fit) Not directed at you.

Steve

Bunker · January 15, 2011 9:07AM

<< 

<< 

<< Isn't it great how some people can degrade a members question >>

I did state it was O.T. I dont spoof any threads and very rarely stray away from sportscards. Just looking for some opinions on the subject. >>

If someone were to ask me to name the classiest poster on these boards, Downtown1974, you would be the first person I would name. I'm not sure I even understand the OP's point, but YOU are the last person who should be worried about the content of what you post on these boards. >>

I agree Bob (Downtown) has always been a classy poster, I did not see whatever the spoof was, but knowing Bob it could not have been that bad or in poor taste.

+1 Downtown1974

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 9:33AM

Thanks for the kind words guys. Of course, you are both top shelf members in my book too.
Steve, I will not make it a pissing match. I think I may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. I assume someone angered Akuracy and my O.T. thread got dragged into it. Maybe it was the straw that broke the camels back for him. I dont know. As far as I am concerned, its all water under the bridge. Im not harboring any ill will against him.

TNP777 · January 15, 2011 9:34AM

I'll echo detroitfan & bunker with regards to Bob's posting content - I've never seen him muckrake in any thread, which not many here can claim (myself included).

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 9:35AM

Thanks Geordie!

PowderedH2O · January 15, 2011 9:41AM

I don't see the harm in an off-topic thread. If the person has a legitimate question and apparently values the opinions of his contemporaries on this forum, it is a quick way to get those opinions. Who is that person hurting? Obviously, I don't want nothing but off-topic threads in a cards forum, but just like many other threads, if it is something that I have no interest in, I will merely choose to skip it and move along.

Sam

detroitfan2 · January 15, 2011 10:06AM

<< I'll echo detroitfan & bunker with regards to Bob's posting content - I've never seen him muckrake in any thread, which not many here can claim (myself included). >>

Can you clear a roof with a muckrake?

GooshA · January 15, 2011 10:07AM

Just go to the cardboardtalk.net site if your life is a message board.. Otherwise, have fun with the variety her, AND, a real life. This is the PSA site, the original grading company. Just check in periodically, post what you like, ignore what you don't, learn some stuff, ask some questions, and don't live here.
Enjoy !

TNP777 · January 15, 2011 10:22AM

<< Just go to the cardboardtalk.net site if your life is a message board. >>

arex · January 15, 2011 11:01AM

Edited with apologies

Garabaldi · January 15, 2011 11:02AM

I think alot of the posters come here just to vent.

MeteoriteGuy · January 15, 2011 11:13AM

<< 

<< I remember the time when a forum member posted a thread about losing his job. You could tell this guy was down in the dumps. Several members were very sympathetic to his situation and offered thier prayers that he would find work soon. But, seeing how it was an off-topic thread I immediately responded to him to remove that rubbish from the forum and that he better find work soon, because I refuse to support his lazy, off-topic, a$$ with my hard earned tax dollars. It was not well received by other members, but I took comfort in the fact that I had done my part to keep things on track here. >>

Why in the world would you choose to be such a complete tool? >>

He wasn't being serious...well, that did kind of happen, but downtown was not the offender, offended or the like.

I have always found Bob's postings to be quite level headed. My only problem is he lost his avatar months ago and I liked the old one. It was very Billy Joel downtown-ish.

Clear Skies,
Mark

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 11:20AM

Yes Mark you are correct. Arex, I was being sarcastic. I didnt respond in that manner. I was just pointing out that some Off topic threads can be useful to some people. Maybe people do like to think they have friends here. Maybe we can help each other in more ways than just collecting.

HeritageAddict · January 15, 2011 11:24AM

In all honesty the occasional OT thread by a well established member does not bother me at all. While we are all here for cards, we all have varying degrees of expertise in other areas as well....what better place to get an OT question answered?

Dboneesq · January 15, 2011 11:37AM

<< Maybe people do like to think they have friends here. Maybe we can help each other in more ways than just collecting. >>

Downtown1974 · January 15, 2011 11:58AM

Well said Doran!
I would always be willing to lend a hand to any of my fellow board members. I think alot of OT threads have helped many people here. Such as prayers sent to members and thier families in times of tragedy, Stowns rides for charity. etc. I guess I just see the good in alot of people here besides card collecting.
When things around here start to frustrate me and I start taking on water, its then that I see the sig lines of guys like Doug and Bunker and that rights my ship.

arex · January 15, 2011 12:19PM

<< Yes Mark you are correct. Arex, I was being sarcastic. I didnt respond in that manner. I was just pointing out that some Off topic threads can be useful to some people. Maybe people do like to think they have friends here. Maybe we can help each other in more ways than just collecting. >>

Then I apologize and will delete my previous post.
Again I apologize.
Arex

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