Thoughts on this 1796 quarter auction

Baley · January 11, 2011 10:19AM

Opinions on this coin... think it's real, or one of those copies with the "copy" worn off and artificially aged?

Link to ebay auction

Patches · January 11, 2011 10:21AM

I wouldn't go anywhere near it is my advice...I can't tell a thing from the photos, but just move along

DennisH · January 11, 2011 10:25AM

Pass.

My first reaction was that it's an intentionally beat-up fake.

Loupe · January 11, 2011 10:26AM

I'd pass. There are known low grade cast copies, and I suspect that one might just be. You may also ask the seller for an image of the 'made in China' stamp

QuarterCollector · January 11, 2011 10:42AM

Fake, stay away

RichieURich · January 11, 2011 10:47AM

Absolutely, positively, counterfeit.

JRocco · January 11, 2011 10:50AM

It looks like you can see traces of the word COPY on the reverse

coinguy1 · January 11, 2011 12:38PM

I checked some completed listings from this seller, and for some reason, his images for them tended to be much clearer than for the 1796 Quarter. But surely, that must be a coincidence.

roadrunner · January 11, 2011 12:56PM

The date numerals are about as fake as they come. The image could be a lot fuzzier and it wouldn't matter.

But heaven help us when the counterfeiters start to make accurate date logos.

roadrunner

ChrisRx · January 11, 2011 12:57PM

<< Absolutely, positively, counterfeit. >>

That is what I thought. Especially the.... DENTICLES on the reverse on the last image...

DRUNNER · January 11, 2011 1:04PM

The numismatists who have much greater knowledge than I have spoken and I would take them at their word.

For my take . . . if you can't spell the word "exist" . . . Pass.

Drunner

Coinlearner · January 11, 2011 1:24PM

..Can make out a clear "C"(After enlarge),same place as myword copy is.

BaseballAbs · January 11, 2011 1:27PM

Some poor idiot is going to pay real money for that. Should we be calling ebay and reporting this?

BaseballAbs · January 11, 2011 1:35PM

You would think it's a dead giveaway that it's not a real 1796, but If you look at the bid history it seems that even a few dealers are being fooled. The reverse especially on that one screems out fake to me. I wouldn't even need to pull out mine to compare. I guess if you wear the coin down well enough and fuzz out the images you could fool some.

BaseballAbs · January 11, 2011 1:53PM

I just reported this with Ebay. Saved someone from spending their hard earned money on a fake.

Billet7 · January 11, 2011 2:56PM

That's one bad counterfeit!

coindeuce · January 11, 2011 3:00PM

The eBay coin shows 8 X 5 stars on obverse...

Outhaul · January 11, 2011 3:04PM

It looks like that from people touching it with 10-foot poles.

Fake!

Cheers,

Bob

lordmarcovan · January 11, 2011 3:50PM

Some of y'all spotted it as a fake right off, apparently, but I must confess that I honestly couldn't tell from those pictures. I had to paste them into a photo editing program and brighten them. Having done that, yeah- it looks bad. And as Coinlearner pointed out, it sorta looks like there might be a residual "C" from the COPY stamp remaining?

Outhaul · January 11, 2011 4:17PM

Rob! What the hell are you doing up at 2:15AM?

Coinlearner · January 12, 2011 7:03AM

....In case someone here is biding it up ..$1800 so far. It does have a return policy,so maybe the buyer will notice.

taxmad · January 12, 2011 7:42AM

At this price, do we assume that the buyer will be a coin collector and know that it is fake as soon as they get it 'in hand' or will it be a fool that thinks they are getting a great deal (as all the coin collectors that know better are avoiding this coin)?

GrumpyEd · January 12, 2011 7:50AM

I see a few possibilities:

It might be real and the buyer will be glad most of us were wrong.
It will be fake and the buyer won't know and keep it for years.
The buyer will figure out it's fake and return it.
The buyer will learn that next time he spends $1800 it should be in a genuine slab.

CaptHenway · January 12, 2011 7:56AM

Buh-bye!

GrumpyEd · January 12, 2011 8:00AM

Well it turned out the 5th possible outcome.

They yanked the auction.

Russ · January 12, 2011 8:10AM

Even if eBay hadn't yanked the auction, nobody was going to get burned.

(If you get my drift).

Russ, NCNE

taxmad · January 12, 2011 8:17AM

<< Even if eBay hadn't yanked the auction, nobody was going to get burned.

(If you get my drift).

Russ, NCNE >>

Someone got burned - the last person holding the coin. I have given up buying coins on eBay. Fake coins turned me on to graded coins. Fake slabs killed that...

Russ · January 12, 2011 9:13AM

<< 

<< Even if eBay hadn't yanked the auction, nobody was going to get burned.

(If you get my drift).

Russ, NCNE >>

Someone got burned - the last person holding the coin. I have given up buying coins on eBay. Fake coins turned me on to graded coins. Fake slabs killed that... >>

The last person holding the coin is this seller, and he obviously knew it is a fake.

Russ, NCNE

Halfhunter06 · January 12, 2011 10:02AM

It just goes to show ya, you have to look out for yourself

coinguy1 · January 12, 2011 10:07AM

<< It just goes to show ya, you have to look out for yourself >>

Or have this forum do it for you.

Baley · January 26, 2011 9:07AM

thanks guys!

how about This One?

Billet7 · January 26, 2011 9:15AM

Hard to tell from the pics and the condition, which translates into...run! Don't touch it with a 10 foot pole!!!

BaseballAbs · January 26, 2011 9:17AM

Now that new one, I have no idea. It could be a ceramic project gone bad for all i can tell. I'm not reporting that one. What you see is what you get.

JRocco · January 26, 2011 10:21AM

<< thanks guys!

how about This One? >>

I bet even a NY parking meter would reject that one Baley

lordmarcovan · January 26, 2011 12:27PM

Nice space shot photograph. It could be a moldy shortbread cookie, for all I know.

At that starting price, in that condition, with that picture, surely nobody is dumb enough to touch that with a 300-foot pole. Surely.

Then again, it IS eBay.

Thoughts on this 1796 quarter auction

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