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PCGS just BB'd this CBH. Guess the reason. (Answer revealed.)
lkeigwin
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Maybe BB is the wrong term. The half is NGC AU53. I asked for a cross at 50 or better. And just got word that they wouldn't cross it for "genuine" reasons so it will remain in its NGC holder.
What's your guess? (No prize...there are only so many BB reasons.)
Lance.
What's your guess? (No prize...there are only so many BB reasons.)
Lance.
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"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
Lafayette Grading Set
ps keep it
That was my second thought!
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SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
<< <i>Reverse cleaned? >>
That was my first guess.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
83 Peeling Lamination
90 Not Genuine
99 PVC Residue
So, it must be one of those.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
There is a lot of lines both north and south of the birds head as well as that
obverse scratch right in front of the kisser.
I would have hoped they were adjustment marks, but I am pretty sure they are not.
Not sure as to your original question. It looks super to me. I think when we KNOW there has been a problem crossing, as Forumites we tend to look extra hard for a flaw. Not that that is bad at all, but I surely don't see anything obvious from the images . .
Keep the rubber down and the shiny side up.
Drunner
(1979 CBX Driver--fastest production bike of its era)
<< <i>There are only three reasons a coin will not be encapsulated,
83 Peeling Lamination
90 Not Genuine
99 PVC Residue
So, it must be one of those. >>
I think WoodenJefferson is onto something here. Note he said they BB'd the coin, as in, bodybagged it. Not, "they stuck it in a 'Genuine' holder".
If it came back in a flip instead of a slab (assuming this is what the OP meant by BB-ing, then it's gotta be one of the above. I don't see any peeling laminations and the coin looks authentic to me, so I am gonna guess PVC residue?
Edit- oh... hang on... I just read the top line. It didn't cross. That's different. But it didn't cross for "Genuine" reasons? Huh?
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
No Grade Description -Printed Description -Holdered
82 Filed Rims -Yes -Yes
83 Peeling Lamination -No -No
84 Holed and Plugged -Yes -Yes
90 Not Genuine -No -No
91 Questionable Color -No -Yes
92 Cleaning -No -Yes
93 Planchet Flaw -No -Yes
94 Altered Surfaces -No -Yes
95 Scratch / Rim Dent -No -Yes
97 Environmental Damage -No -Yes
98 Damage -No -Yes
99 PVC Residue -No -No
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
PCGS is right, I don't like the surfaces on the reverse. So I would say altered surfaces.
SeattleSlammer guessed right. Someone pissed in the grader's cornflakes. Too funny.
The guesses were: altered surfaces, reversed cleaned, scratches, scratches, damage, tooling, centering dot (what code is that?), graffiti, big claws (LOL!), big claws (bigger LOL), scratches, altered surface, cleaned, scratches, planchet defect, whizzed, tooled, hole in the neck (again?), altered surfaces, and cleaned/wiped.
But no one said "holed, plugged" or "filed rims". Where are you guys?
PCGS said "rim damage or scratched". Argh. Bummed.
Since they didn't crack it (crossover failed) it must be scratches. I like it but I'll probably return it and try to find a nicer one with smaller claws.
Lance.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
A couple of weeks ago PCGS agreed that an MS66 1917 Lincoln I sent in for a spot review needed to downgrade. We settled on a price and PCGS kept the coin.
Below is the coin. Stunning in many ways. But the reverse has a scratch. A big one. Huge.
Now don't you figure this Lincoln should have been "genuined"? Instead it was regraded MS65+RD. No kidding. Check out the cert# if you're skeptical: 50169415
The 1817 half in NGC AU53 plastic wouldn't cross for some minor scratch barely perceptible. But the GEM 1917 Lincoln with a scratch a mile wide gets a plus grade.
I give up.
Lance.
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SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
PCGS said "rim damage or scratch". Since they didn't crack it out, and there's no apparent rim damage, I'm assuming it failed to cross because of a scratch somewhere.
Lance.
All this is purely from pics though - so I really have no clue in actuality
For that matter my entire AU set belongs in BB's. (I can't believe I'm saying this.)
Lance.
<< <i>For that matter my entire AU set belongs in BB's. (I can't believe I'm saying this.) >>
Funny... I recently heard someone's entire AU set was subject to an unexplained, mass mechanical error...
<< <i>Those Eagle's claws are way too big. >>
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...ummm i think the comments are getting a bit on the fence as far as criticizing our host. the reason i say this is
because i THINK i heard the plane drone noise of the enola gay right above this thread.
<< <i>...ummm i think the comments are getting a bit on the fence as far as criticizing our host. the reason i say this is
because i THINK i heard the plane drone noise of the enola gay right above this thread.
I was Joking!
I think that one needed no smiley!