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What causes water spots on modern business strike coins?

They look like those spots that are left behind after you rinse your glasses made in China that you bought from Wal-Mart (or those spots left behind after Longacres' staff cleans his leaded crystal).

I have 8 MS68 coins that have these spots... would PCGS review them under a spot review? Would they be something that they would dip to remove the spots and then reholder the coins?

I can't imagine a "rinse" spot would be acceptable on a MS68 coin?
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK playing image's advocate here but if it comes from the planchet rinse and it is struck in why would it not be considered as minted and graded as such.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>OK playing image's advocate here but if it comes from the planchet rinse and it is struck in why would it not be considered as minted and graded as such. >>



    Then we would get into a technical grade vs. market grade (eye appeal) discussion. image

    Would a MS68 with spots sell for the same as a MS68 without spots?
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Would a MS68 with spots sell for the same as a MS68 without spots?"

    No. Cheers, RickO
  • No their is nothing to get rid of those milk spots!!!
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>No their is nothing to get rid of those milk spots!!! >>



    Are they milk spots? I thought the milk spots were only on the ASEs? Do they rinse the regular circulating business strike coins too?
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They look like those spots that are left behind after you rinse your glasses made in China that you bought from Wal-Mart (or those spots left behind after Longacres' staff cleans his leaded crystal).

    I have 8 MS68 coins that have these spots... would PCGS review them under a spot review? Would they be something that they would dip to remove the spots and then reholder the coins?

    I can't imagine a "rinse" spot would be acceptable on a MS68 coin? >>



    ...i think PCGS would downgrade the coins because of the spots and give you the money difference as part of

    their guarantee. image
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I'm pretty certain they're not milk spots. From what I've read, milk spots occur on silver coins? These look like water spots... they're on cents, nickels, dimes, quarters, half dollars and SACs. They would have to be post mint? I've bought them from several different dealers/collectors. The only common denominator is that they are in PCGS slabs.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lots of spotted coins are out there.

    little explanation.

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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What causes water spots on modern business strike coins? >>

    Is this like who is buried in Grant's tomb?
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


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    << <i>What causes water spots on modern business strike coins? >>

    Is this like who is buried in Grant's tomb? >>



    I don't understand... water spots are buried in Grant's tomb? image

    I was wondering if it was caused cleaning the planchets... if they even do that for business strikes. If it was caused cleaning the coins after going through the presses... if they even do that for business strikes. If it was caused post mint by a collector/dealer... using MS70 or some other product, etc.
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  • botanistbotanist Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    No help from an acetone rinse?
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,615 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No help from an acetone rinse? >>



    Why would you expect any remedy from acetone, especially AFTER the spots become visible? At least in the case of silver eagles [and presumably related mint issued commemorative coins] the spots are due to chlorine which over time manifests itself as the visible and generally irreversible formation of silver chloride. I can't speak to the issue of business strikes as I have no direct experience with them and thus don't know if the spots arise from the same rinse process as the ASEs or as deposits from hard water.

    The missing piece/s of the puzzle could probably be found if one had access to the mint's manufacturing process or that of their blank planchet supplier. I can't believe that it is some highly guarded proprietary secret, but perhaps maybe it is.

    At this time the best approach is to submit coins on your own and dip them in eZest [NOT ACETONE] before you submit them.
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