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I bought a coin on ebay and never received it in over a month. I sent an email asking the status of the item and pretty much immediately got my money refunded with an email saying they had no record of ever shipping it.

Logged in today and realized I had the opportunity to provide feedback. I gave the seller a neutral and said never shipped, I had to notify them and that they refunded.

In my mind the transaction is a neutral or a negative. I bought. They didn't ship, and they didn't know they didn't ship. Poor service if you ask me.

Anyway I get a response email today stating they blocked me (I don't care about that, won't buy from them again anyway) and that they added me to some forum blocked list and said I was unreasonable. That I'm a little worried about, having a whole bunch of people block me based on a forum posting.

I see no method for reporting this email. I don't feel like there should be any retribution. I only have 150 transactions on ebay but I'm at 100%. I'm hoping somebody would look at that before just blocking me.

Is there a way to report to ebay or should I just leave it be?

John
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  • I wouldn't worry about it , i don't think theres much you can do about it.Empty threat is what it sounds like , if it wasn't this forum and i don't think there is a forum block list , then i don't see it really matters much.
    If the name of the forum wan't mentioned you can bet its not worth losing sleep over.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I realize this was not the central portion of your thread, but leaving neutral feedback in this case seems a bit harsh. The reason being that they refunded you immediately upon receiving your email and admitted that they had no record of shipping the coin. Everyone makes a mistake now and then and that might have happened here, too, but how one responds to the mistake can speak volumes. They appeared to respond quickly and take responsibility of the mistake.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why would you want to report that? Do you really expect them to do something about it? Doesn't sound like anything threatening to me. Personally, I wouldn't have left any feedback.
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  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    I agree
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I realize this was not the central portion of your thread, but leaving neutral feedback in this case seems a bit harsh. The reason being that they refunded you immediately upon receiving your email and admitted that they had no record of shipping the coin. Everyone makes a mistake now and then and that might have happened here, too, but how one responds to the mistake can speak volumes. They appeared to respond quickly and take responsibility of the mistake. >>

    I'm not seeing a Neutral here either.
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I realize this was not the central portion of your thread, but leaving neutral feedback in this case seems a bit harsh. The reason being that they refunded you immediately upon receiving your email and admitted that they had no record of shipping the coin. Everyone makes a mistake now and then and that might have happened here, too, but how one responds to the mistake can speak volumes. They appeared to respond quickly and take responsibility of the mistake.

    >>

    I'm not seeing a Neutral here either. >>




    Yeah, he harshed the dood.


    Hey, JJ, what's your ebay handle?
  • Neutral feedback is, in my opinion, too extreme. A neg is totally out of the question. Did you communicate with the seller within the 30 days?
  • I think you guys take the ebay grading system too seriously.

    I bought something and I didn't get it. Wonderful that they refunded my money but when it comes time to grade the transaction in my mind it darn sure isn't a positive.

    I respect all the comments but I bought and did not get. Neutral. Period.

    John
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭
    JJ, I suspect your approach would lead plenty of seller's to block you if they knew this is your stance.
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I am with Russ on this. I would had negged the seller for no contact after having given the seller a loan for a month. I want interest. I'm talking credit account interest...
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey, JJ, what's your ebay handle? >>

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would had negged the seller >>



    Nah, a neg would be too harsh. Those should be reserved for sellers who lie or try to rip us off.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Excellent points Russ. I'm surprised JJ wouldn't out this dealer that would retaliate against him for a deserved neutral. Question for those that say this dealer doesn't a neg: What would a dealer have to do to earn a neutal but not a neg?






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  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JJ, out the seller. Then you can email him that you returned the favor but on a forum with a much larger membership.

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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    were they shipping to you in JAPAN?

    how long does it normally take to receive items?

    I am curious why it took so long to inquire about ship date


    I would not worry about any darn message board feedback threat - heck most on this board would not block you for that



    I would just leave it be- unless you want to search the eBay site map to report -
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    I would have left a neutral. If they smoothed things over professionally with a bonus of some sort for the mistake or an e-mail to be sure to keep my business then I would have just left none or maybe even a positive with a note-----------BigE
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  • << <i>I think you guys take the ebay grading system too seriously.

    I bought something and I didn't get it. Wonderful that they refunded my money but when it comes time to grade the transaction in my mind it darn sure isn't a positive.

    I respect all the comments but I bought and did not get. Neutral. Period.

    John >>

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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    It wasn't a GOOD deal...it wasn't a BAD deal, so it must be a NEUTRAL. If I forgot to mail smoebody's item for a month I'd be glad I didn't get a NEG. With that said, I have had sellers not mail me items until reminded, but I left them good feedback, simply because of what they said in their email, their attitude was apoligetic & sincere. Plus I remembered the time or 2 I have forgotton to pay a seller and the seller was cool about it and didn't neg me. What goes around comes around.
    Half the people on eBay are blocked and that doesn't hamper them from buying stuff.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I agree that we do not see eye to eye on this issue. I also agree that folks who do not complete the transaction hurt the overall ebay experience and/or site confidence. However, the seller's response and actions indicated that it appeared to be an honest mistake and I don't know that one always have to jump on someone for an honest mistake. We just see this incident differently.
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  • << <i>were they shipping to you in JAPAN?

    how long does it normally take to receive items?

    I am curious why it took so long to inquire about ship date


    I would not worry about any darn message board feedback threat - heck most on this board would not block you for that



    I would just leave it be- unless you want to search the eBay site map to report - >>



    Yes I live in Japan but at a military FPO address. Normal mail and packages from the US take just a few days. Although it requires a customs form and that could possibly have been the sticking point. There are a lot of people who don't like to take the time to fill out the customs form and go to the post office.

    I bought the item, waited about a month and contacted the seller. They responded that they had no record of ever shipping it and refunded my money. In my mind if they never shipped it, it must mean they still have it, right? Why not find it and ship?

    There's more going on here. I don't want to speculate too much though.

    John
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's my solution. I don't ship to APO/ FPO's.

    I think that your seller did well escaping with a neutral. I'd be ready, if I did the same to a buyer, to get a neg. OTOH, I would have

    a) Apologized profusely, and

    b) Sent some token gift out.

    THEN, I'd expect a neutral.
  • If they stated they simply forgot to or didn't ship, why wouldn't you just ask them to ship the coin?


  • << <i>If they stated they simply forgot to or didn't ship, why wouldn't you just ask them to ship the coin? >>



    No choice. They refunded the money via paypal and then sent the email through ebay. Wasn't given an opportunity really to ask anything. Once I had the money back there was no reason to expect that they'd ship.

    John
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  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Right on, Russ. If the buyer hadn't followed up, he would probably never have received a refund. The coin was listed in auction; he purchased it; to me, this is a contract. The seller should have been the one to contact the buyer with an apology and a refund. (maybe they sold it to someone else, off EBAY, or whatever)image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>If they stated they simply forgot to or didn't ship, why wouldn't you just ask them to ship the coin? >>



    No choice. They refunded the money via paypal and then sent the email through ebay. Wasn't given an opportunity really to ask anything. Once I had the money back there was no reason to expect that they'd ship.

    John >>



    Sounds like they may have already sold it to someone else. Otherwise, they would have shipped it once JJ reminded them.

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  • If they gave me no choice and just rudely refunded my money like they did, I would have NEG'ed them.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Seems like a well deserved Neutral to me, had to wait a month, then ask them about it, then get the money back.

    And having spent 6 years in the Navy back in the day I will also add that when I see a dealer that won't ship to APO/FPO addresses they are probably someone I don't want to deal with.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep in mind that if you, even slightly, referenced the complaint and/or resolution within the feedback and the seller is savvy enough to know how to do so, he can have the feedback removed via eBay's policy.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the neutral camp. The seller screwed up. By issuing a refund he rescued himself from a negative. If he wanted to avoid a neutral or even garner a positive he should have thrown something nice JJ's way, not just his money back.

    No way it can be a positive. And I don't believe leaving no feedback is meaningful.

    As a bidder/buyer I'd like to know about sellers who lose orders.
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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>JJ, I suspect your approach would lead plenty of seller's to block you if they knew this is your stance. >>



    If you are in the habit of taking money and not shipping, please do put me on your blocked birders list. I'd really appreciate it. (I realize you might not be the seller JJ dealt with)
  • TevaTeva Posts: 830
    It sounds like neutral feedback was tailored made for just such a transaction. What would you use neutral feedback for if its to
    "harsh" for someone that the only thing you know about them is they have trouble completing there transactions?
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  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I agree that we do not see eye to eye on this issue. I also agree that folks who do not complete the transaction hurt the overall ebay experience and/or site confidence. However, the seller's response and actions indicated that it appeared to be an honest mistake and I don't know that one always have to jump on someone for an honest mistake. We just see this incident differently. >>



    The transaction surely isn't positive for JJ, and since the refund was given...it isn't really a negative. This for sure is deserving of a neutral. Future buyers need to know when this type of stuff goes on with a seller.
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭
    They refunded the money quickly and offered a reasonable explanation. I don't know what more they could have done. They should have received a positive feedback in my opinion.
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  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They refunded the money quickly and offered a reasonable explanation. I don't know what more they could have done. They should have received a positive feedback in my opinion. >>



    How is this positive? He tried to buy something and didn't receive it...on top of that he waited a long time. It's a neutral, nothing happened.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everyone on ebay can't have 100% feedback or even 99% feedback. The fact is the grading curve is so skewed towards 99-100% as to be irrelevant. Hence the comments are the only way to define a poor transaction and ultimately a poor seller. And since the seller provided feedback to your comment I believe you can still provide another 80 characters of "rebuttle" or clarification to your original comments if you desire. At least that was the case just a few yrs ago. Clarify in the supplemental remarks that the seller blocked you because you provided neutral feedback when they didn't communicate for 30 days and sold your coin to someone else. The FB system is there to explain how the seller does business. I'd say let it do that.

    A neutral was easily appropriate for the lack of service received.

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  • This senario should be the definition of neutral.
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  • I just logged in and checked the sellers feedback. In the last month they have had 5 Neutrals and 4 Negatives. So apparently it isn't just me.

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  • determineddetermined Posts: 771 ✭✭✭


    << <i>JJ, out the seller. Then you can email him that you returned the favor but on a forum with a much larger membership. >>



    Ha! I like this idea.
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I realize this was not the central portion of your thread, but leaving neutral feedback in this case seems a bit harsh. The reason being that they refunded you immediately upon receiving your email and admitted that they had no record of shipping the coin. Everyone makes a mistake now and then and that might have happened here, too, but how one responds to the mistake can speak volumes. They appeared to respond quickly and take responsibility of the mistake. >>



    Agreed. Neutral is effectively as bad as a neg, and was not deserved. You should look into withdrawing the feedback.
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would you want to report that? Do you really expect them to do something about it? Doesn't sound like anything threatening to me. Personally, I wouldn't have left any feedback. >>



    Probably what I would have done.
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Intersting. So you don't think this could have been an honest mistake from the seller?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I only read a few replies, but I have to agree a neutral and a 1 for shipping was/is deserved.

    My question is (and I'm sorry if it was already answered) did the item sell for UNDER market value?

    Steve


    edited: because I made no sense earlier.






    Good for you.
  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    I am pretty forgiving and try to live by do unto others as you would have them do unto you so I would have probably given a positive feedback.
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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They refunded the money quickly and offered a reasonable explanation. I don't know what more they could have done. They should have received a positive feedback in my opinion. >>



    How about ship the coin? Do you think they could have done that?
  • ksammutksammut Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Intersting. So you don't think this could have been an honest mistake from the seller? >>



    Not after JJ posted the seller has had 5 Neutrals and 4 Negatives in the past month. If you are going to sell on ebay (a lot or a little), you should act like a professional business at all times. If you make a mistake, own up to it and most will be forgiving. If you fail to communicate, you deserve whatever you get.

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  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Buyer doesn't receive a purchase for over a month, during which his money is tied up, gets no communication from the seller until his patience finally runs out - after more than a month - and you guys think a neutral is too harsh? Seriously?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes, seriously. I think it is too harsh since many view a neutral on ebay as a negative and this might not be correct, but you know it is the case, too. If the funds or the item were that important to the buyer then the buyer would likely have been in touch with the seller much sooner than waiting a month. Given this and the response from the seller, I think the neutral was too heavy handed. >>



    Well, we're going to have to disagree. But, if I treated a buyer like this I would fully expect at least a neutral. Sellers who do this type of thing hurt every seller on eBay by driving away buyers, and a neutral feedback is an excellent behavior modification tool.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Intersting. So you don't think this could have been an honest mistake from the seller? >>



    I don't see how this matters, the buyer didn't get what they was expecting from the transaction...it isn't a positive experience.

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