<< <i>Will these coins go up to the next level Wednesday(tomorrow) at noon??? We had a huge drop in today's gold bullion as most of us know. MsMorrisine??? >>
Want a WAGuess?
No change due to Wed. pm fix still being in range. But you can take that and $10 and bet on red or black at the roulette.
I hedged and bought another set today, just in case.(as opposed to sometime next week like I was thinking)
I'm still thinking about the set, but that's a budget buster, and the CC would flame me for sure. FOr sure. It would, Well, it might not... aw shucks, I got a hose!
Order #***3-6785 - backordered.
Still considerng the set, though...
Maybe I could get an advance on my inheritance? Yah, right...
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Crit #3, as do all the criteria, looks at both the weekly average and the wed. pm fix as compared to the already established selling range.
this week the new weekly average was higher than the current range, but the wed pm fix was still inside the current range. that fits criteria #3, and the result from that criteria is no change.
I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit.
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January. B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit.
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<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January. B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
True.
I wonder if the Republicans still believe in a ""lower tax rate helps grow the GDP towards higher tax receipts"" line of thought.
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January. B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
True.
I wonder if the Republicans still believe in a ""lower tax rate helps grow the GDP towards higher tax receipts"" line of thought. >>
Lowering taxes, especially corporate taxes is a must. The Dems have had 4 years, and I believe the economy is in the tank due to their incredibly mis-guided spending and raising taxes wherever they saw fit! Keynsian economics does not work.
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January. B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
True.
I wonder if the Republicans still believe in a ""lower tax rate helps grow the GDP towards higher tax receipts"" line of thought. >>
Lowering taxes, especially corporate taxes is a must. The Dems have had 4 years, and I believe the economy is in the tank due to their incredibly mis-guided spending and raising taxes wherever they saw fit! Keynsian economics does not work. >>
The Dems have NOT raised taxes. As a matter of fact, the Obama tax cut was the largest one year tax cut EVER.
As for the Bush tax cuts that are going to expire. The Dems have NOTHING to do with that. As a matter of fact the Dems didn't even vote for it. So if your upset the Bush tax cuts are going away, blame the Republicans.
Having said all that, what do we do next?
I say let them all expire.
If you don't want to do that and want to borrow more from China, then we need to decide who should get it and where it will have the greatest effect.
As for the Bush tax cuts that are going to expire. The Dems have NOTHING to do with that. As a matter of fact the Dems didn't even vote for it. So if your upset the Bush tax cuts are going away, blame the Republicans.
The Republicans have no power, how can they be blamed?......I blame the gutless Dems for leaving for break and ignoring the subject at hand. Yes, the Dems "didn't even vote for it." We need the tax cuts to continue...PERIOD!!!
If I remember correctly, the Bush Tax Cuts fixed the "marraige penalty", where most married couples were paying more in Federal Taxes than two "Single" taxpayers.
<< <i>As for the Bush tax cuts that are going to expire. The Dems have NOTHING to do with that. As a matter of fact the Dems didn't even vote for it. So if your upset the Bush tax cuts are going away, blame the Republicans.
The Republicans have no power, how can they be blamed?......I blame the gutless Dems for leaving for break and ignoring the subject at hand. Yes, the Dems "didn't even vote for it." We need the tax cuts to continue...PERIOD!!! >>
Uh, well it's the law. Signed by Bush.
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the Bush tax cuts, it is the Law, they will expire, end of story. If Bush wanted the Bush tax cuts to go on forever, they should have written the Law that way. They didn't, thus per the Law they wrote, the tax cuts will expire.
If anything new is to be done, including 'extending' the Bush tax cuts, A NEW LAW HAS TO BE WRITTEN, passed by Congress, passed by the Senate and signed by the President.
So, if we are writting a NEW tax Law, and borrowing the money from China, lets make sure we spend it in the best way to get our best bang for a buck.
<< <i>If I remember correctly, the Bush Tax Cuts fixed the "marraige penalty", where most married couples were paying more in Federal Taxes than two "Single" taxpayers.
Not good. Leave them be. >>
But, if one works and the other doesn't, the one that works will pay LESS in taxes then the single person making the same amount. That ain't fair.
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January. B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
The expectation starts the day after the election, not in January. I stand by my prediction of gold taking a plunge if the congress flips.
But, if one works and the other doesn't, the one that works will pay LESS in taxes then the single person making the same amount. That ain't fair.
Sure, if you ignore the welfare that the "non-working" single collects. And the free child care and free healthcare. There's no better gig in town than two singles, where one works and one collects.
and the four coin set is still the second hottest seller, but of the four coins the 1/10 ounce is still the second hottest.
We'll see how long it takes to sell out, if they sell out. They could keep the 1 oz on the list into next year and have a good chance of selling them out.
I was so excited, I opened up the box - it looks beautiful, and there appears to be not a mark or blemish on it - after which I felt totally overcome by the nefarious "Mr. Bill's" so very well known expression, 'Ohhh Nooooooooo'...
But then I realized I'm well within the 30-day window, so now I must consider whether or not I actually want to go the grading & 1st strike route. Now, I understand the IN-significance, and am aware of the 1st strike rationale, but really, if that elusive 70 can bump a coin's value by, say, 20% today, is it reasonable to presume that premium will endure (I haven't been in the hobby long enough to know this personally) ?
I ask, in part, since it seems that 1st strike designation often commands a premium in the early days, but I have to wonder if it will have legs?
Do 1st strike coins retain the premium so often enjoyed at the start of the run?
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MsMorrisine, will the Mint bump the price on these tomorrow.....gold has been averaging ±$1350 this past week. Does the fix have to be above $1350 on Wed?? Thanks
<< <i>MsMorrisine, will the Mint bump the price on these tomorrow.....gold has been averaging ±$1350 this past week. Does the fix have to be above $1350 on Wed?? Thanks >>
Sorry I missed that.
This week: The average with 8/10 fixes done is $1392.19. The last fix today was $1421.
They jump the price to the range indicated by the average. So, that's 1 level up right now, barring some sharp decline in gold. If the fixes tomorrow are both $1431.25 or both add to $2862.50, then we will jump by 2 levels
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How do you figure that number....are you adding a pro-rated premium for this weeks $50 increase???
Here's one of the first 4pc. sets graded by NGC.....PF70UCAM/Early Release.......
ebay Link
I bet PCGS brings $4k.
We had a huge drop in today's gold bullion as most of us know.
MsMorrisine???
edited to add: I have three raw sets I will sell at original issue price plus shipping
Uh, why Jesse???
<< <i>
<< <i>No Sale
Even with only $14 over Mint + $10 S&H premium.....NO Takers!!!!! >>
??
Mint Price is $1610 right now + $4.95 s&h. That one was listed at $1599 & $15 s&h. They were about evenly priced.
Maybe buyers are wising up to where to order mint products?? >>
How do I figure?
The link you provided was for a Buff. Those are $1610.
<< <i>I have three raw sets I will sell at original issue price plus shipping >>
Sometimes it's easier to do returns....
<< <i>Will these coins go up to the next level Wednesday(tomorrow) at noon???
We had a huge drop in today's gold bullion as most of us know.
MsMorrisine???
Want a WAGuess?
No change due to Wed. pm fix still being in range. But you can take that and $10 and bet on red or black at the roulette.
I hedged and bought another set today, just in case.(as opposed to sometime next week like I was thinking)
<< <i>Here's one for 3 sets of 70's from ATS: $9750 >>
And one bid took it!!!
edited to add: Does NGC have any 69's in there grading of modern gold???
Wed pm fix: $1339
In accordance with their pricing policy, no change was made (criteria #3)
<< <i>This weeks average: $1361.20
Wed pm fix: $1339
In accordance with their pricing policy, no change was made (criteria #3) >>
What time is considered the Wed pm fix?
Why do they take the lower crit #3 over the weeks average.
Sorry, I'm really dense on this grid stuff!!
<< <i>
<< <i>Here's one for 3 sets of 70's from ATS: $9750 >>
And one bid took it!!!
edited to add: Does NGC have any 69's in there grading of modern gold???
Very few...(quite rare)
I'm still thinking about the set, but that's a budget buster, and the CC would flame me for sure. FOr sure. It would, Well, it might not... aw shucks, I got a hose!
Order #***3-6785 - backordered.
Still considerng the set, though...
Maybe I could get an advance on my inheritance? Yah, right...
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>
<< <i>This weeks average: $1361.20
Wed pm fix: $1339
In accordance with their pricing policy, no change was made (criteria #3) >>
What time is considered the Wed pm fix?
Why do they take the lower crit #3 over the weeks average.
Sorry, I'm really dense on this grid stuff!!
the Wed PM fix is done in London and on London time. am fix is approx. 10:30 and the pm fix is approx. 3pm done over the phone(!?!?)
Crit #3, as do all the criteria, looks at both the weekly average and the wed. pm fix as compared to the already established selling range.
this week the new weekly average was higher than the current range, but the wed pm fix was still inside the current range. that fits criteria #3, and the result from that criteria is no change.
Relatively low #'s IMHO.
<< <i>
Relatively low #'s IMHO. >>
from 13,980 to 19,195 in a week!
unbelievably hot
13,980 1st week
5,215 2nd week
only 5,805 left.
with gold tanking hard, my thinking is these will creep and crawl towards a sellout from here the way the Boy Scouts Commem did.
On the other hand, I didn't think these would be nearly as hot as they are. So, maybe I'm wrong.
(and they are back to an 11/05 ship date from 10/22 earlier)
Mint Price: $806.00
Not much of a premium for a PR70DCAMFS from PCGS!!!!
edited to add: 4 coin set PCGS PR70DCAMFS.....
eBay Link
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January.
B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit.
This is a pre-sale (pre- as in selling before the grades come back) though.
And I'm guessing supply is outstripping demand right now.
<< <i>
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January.
B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
True.
I wonder if the Republicans still believe in a ""lower tax rate helps grow the GDP towards higher tax receipts"" line of thought.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January.
B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
True.
I wonder if the Republicans still believe in a ""lower tax rate helps grow the GDP towards higher tax receipts"" line of thought. >>
Lowering taxes, especially corporate taxes is a must.
The Dems have had 4 years, and I believe the economy is in the tank due to their incredibly mis-guided spending and raising taxes wherever they saw fit!
Keynsian economics does not work.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January.
B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
True.
I wonder if the Republicans still believe in a ""lower tax rate helps grow the GDP towards higher tax receipts"" line of thought. >>
Lowering taxes, especially corporate taxes is a must.
The Dems have had 4 years, and I believe the economy is in the tank due to their incredibly mis-guided spending and raising taxes wherever they saw fit!
Keynsian economics does not work. >>
The Dems have NOT raised taxes. As a matter of fact, the Obama tax cut was the largest one year tax cut EVER.
As for the Bush tax cuts that are going to expire. The Dems have NOTHING to do with that. As a matter of fact the Dems didn't even vote for it. So if your upset the Bush tax cuts are going away, blame the Republicans.
Having said all that, what do we do next?
I say let them all expire.
If you don't want to do that and want to borrow more from China, then we need to decide who should get it and where it will have the greatest effect.
The Republicans have no power, how can they be blamed?......I blame the gutless Dems for leaving for break and ignoring the subject at hand. Yes, the Dems "didn't even vote for it." We need the tax cuts to continue...PERIOD!!!
Not good. Leave them be.
<< <i>As for the Bush tax cuts that are going to expire. The Dems have NOTHING to do with that. As a matter of fact the Dems didn't even vote for it. So if your upset the Bush tax cuts are going away, blame the Republicans.
The Republicans have no power, how can they be blamed?......I blame the gutless Dems for leaving for break and ignoring the subject at hand. Yes, the Dems "didn't even vote for it." We need the tax cuts to continue...PERIOD!!! >>
Uh, well it's the law. Signed by Bush.
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the Bush tax cuts, it is the Law, they will expire, end of story.
If Bush wanted the Bush tax cuts to go on forever, they should have written the Law that way. They didn't, thus per the Law they wrote, the tax cuts will expire.
If anything new is to be done, including 'extending' the Bush tax cuts, A NEW LAW HAS TO BE WRITTEN, passed by Congress, passed by the Senate and signed by the President.
So, if we are writting a NEW tax Law, and borrowing the money from China, lets make sure we spend it in the best way to get our best bang for a buck.
The economy and government function is more complex than simply lower or raising taxes.
e.g. deficit spending.
We can argue about taxes, but as long as spending is overlooked, bye bye dollar.
<< <i>If I remember correctly, the Bush Tax Cuts fixed the "marraige penalty", where most married couples were paying more in Federal Taxes than two "Single" taxpayers.
Not good. Leave them be. >>
But, if one works and the other doesn't, the one that works will pay LESS in taxes then the single person making the same amount. That ain't fair.
<< <i>
<< <i>I fully expect gold to to take a dive if the congress flips as expected. This will be in expectation of the new congress reducing spending and the deficit. >>
A: The new Congress does not take office until January.
B: The new Congress might cut spending a little and cut taxes a lot, thereby increasing the deficit. >>
The expectation starts the day after the election, not in January. I stand by my prediction of gold taking a plunge if the congress flips.
I don't think this country can afford 2 years of gridlock.
That taken with the newly affluent of India and China mixed into the equation, and I'm not seeing gold plunging anytime soon.
Sure, if you ignore the welfare that the "non-working" single collects. And the free child care and free healthcare. There's no better gig in town than two singles, where one works and one collects.
It just boggles my mind that someone with two kids making the same exact amount as me, paid $20,000 less in taxes over the past 10 years.
$20,000 !!!!
Needless to say, I say roll back ALL those tax cuts, which is to say, let everything expire and don't make any new ones.
Why would two married individuals making the exact same amount as two single filers pay more Federal taxes?
A mistake that needed to be fixed, nothing else. And it got fixed along with the Bush tax cuts. Period. It needs to stay that way.
Thanks...Miles
Has anyone got any info on fresh mintage numbers for this series??
We'll know on Thursday, Miles.
Well, we are close to a sell-out on the one ouncers in single mint issue. Heck of alot quicker than the Buck.
Who woulda thought??
Miles
2 19195 25000
3 21302 25000
and the four coin set is still the second hottest seller, but of the four coins the 1/10 ounce is still the second hottest.
We'll see how long it takes to sell out, if they sell out. They could keep the 1 oz on the list into next year and have a good chance of selling them out.
I was so excited, I opened up the box - it looks beautiful, and there appears to be not a mark or blemish on it - after which I felt totally overcome by the nefarious "Mr. Bill's" so very well known expression, 'Ohhh Nooooooooo'...
But then I realized I'm well within the 30-day window, so now I must consider whether or not I actually want to go the grading & 1st strike route. Now, I understand the IN-significance, and am aware of the 1st strike rationale, but really, if that elusive 70 can bump a coin's value by, say, 20% today, is it reasonable to presume that premium will endure (I haven't been in the hobby long enough to know this personally) ?
I ask, in part, since it seems that 1st strike designation often commands a premium in the early days, but I have to wonder if it will have legs?
Do 1st strike coins retain the premium so often enjoyed at the start of the run?
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Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>Do 1st strike coins retain the premium so often enjoyed at the start of the run? >>
Maybe not but for $18? Do it if you get it graded.
<< <i>The one ouncer is now on a waiting list. >>
SWEEEET!
Does the fix have to be above $1350 on Wed??
Thanks
<< <i>I'm undecided at this juncture. What say you??
2010 Proof AGE
Why is there no mention of the 'W' mintmark????
US Mint Link >>
Great question Bully. I think we now know the answer.
Get em' while you can amigos. They are now a BARGAIN.
The AGE Set is at $1588 Spot Price. How close are we???
Miles
<< <i>MsMorrisine, will the Mint bump the price on these tomorrow.....gold has been averaging ±$1350 this past week.
Does the fix have to be above $1350 on Wed??
Thanks >>
Sorry I missed that.
This week:
The average with 8/10 fixes done is $1392.19. The last fix today was $1421.
They jump the price to the range indicated by the average. So, that's 1 level up right now, barring some sharp decline in gold. If the fixes tomorrow are both $1431.25 or both add to $2862.50, then we will jump by 2 levels
I did my buying a bit of time ago; although, if Gold continues to ascend, I may consider the half ouncer.
Herre comes the 5 Ouncers and ASE Proofs!!!
How about you?
Miles
<< <i>Doubtful Bully!
I did my buying a bit of time ago; although, if Gold continues to ascend, I may consider the half ouncer.
Herre comes the 5 Ouncers and ASE Proofs!!!
How about you?
Miles >>
None at this price level!!!