Exactly what indicates fraud other than he's in Nor Cal selling 2 circulated prooklife rare dollars worth a total of $6,000 (according to a dealer in DC) for a measly $1,000 or best offer because he's not concerned about profit? Plus the sucker I mean buyer makes $20.00 in eBay Bucks!
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins pictured in coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate.
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<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins pictured in coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
Well said. I've been emailing this seller and he does have two early dollars. I believe they are probably fake but now I won't be getting better pictures as they've sold. He agreed to take pics of the coins on today's newspaper headline and send to me. Probably won't get now
bob
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<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins from coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
The buyer is in contact with the seller, and if the situation warrants, will remove the negative feedback.
Thus far, additional images have been emailed by the seller. They are of extremely poor quality, but it looks as if the coins might be counterfeit. If so, it's quite possible that the seller thinks they are genuine.
<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins from coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
The buyer is in contact with the seller, and if the situation warrants, will remove the negative feedback.
Thus far, additional images have been emailed by the seller. They are of extremely poor quality, but it looks as if the coins might be counterfeit. If so, it's quite possible that the seller thinks they are genuine. >>
Mark, ask the "buyer" what the was purpose of the immediate negative feedback? What is just a premature knee jerk reaction to the coinfacts photo discovery or is there a logical reason for it.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins from coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
The buyer is in contact with the seller, and if the situation warrants, will remove the negative feedback.
Thus far, additional images have been emailed by the seller. They are of extremely poor quality, but it looks as if the coins might be counterfeit. If so, it's quite possible that the seller thinks they are genuine. >>
Mark, ask the "buyer" what the was purpose of the immediate negative feedback? What is just a premature knee jerk reaction to the coinfacts photo discovery or is there a logical reason for it. >>
It was to warn others - you can decide if you think it was logical to do so or not.
The seller has indicated that he will try to get his coins certified. And if it turns out they are genuine, the buyer will remove the negative feedback.
<< <i>It was to warn others - you can decide if you think it was logical to do so or not.
The seller has indicated that he will try to get his coins certified. And if it turns out they are genuine, the buyer will remove the negative feedback. >>
Not my place to pass judgement, just trying to learn. The negs seem kinda harsh at this point in the transaction, when buyer has full buyer protection and the opportunity to neg after coins are received (or not). The negs basically freeze the seller from any further sales until transaction is completed satisfactorily. Of course this is a good motivator for the seller to provide quick satisfaction to the buyer. Maybe it was a good move on the buyer's part after all.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
so, did the buyer just buy to stop the auction? and he has no intention of completing the deal? That's a lot of risk to your reputation just to stop a scammer.
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<< <i>Stolen pictures? >>
That's my hunch.
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Plus the sucker I mean buyer makes $20.00 in eBay Bucks!
don't like the ""3rd coin's"" picture???
(which doesn't match the condition of either of the other two.)
<< <i>and he has 2 available! >>
Not any more.......... e***i .......... bought both sets.........what a steal.......such a lucky guy.
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<< <i>Negative feedback has already been left by the buyer. Looks like a member of the coin posse has struck.
What a great guy.......well done
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins pictured in coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
Well said. I've been emailing this seller and he does have two early dollars. I believe they are probably
fake but now I won't be getting better pictures as they've sold. He agreed to take pics of the coins on today's
newspaper headline and send to me. Probably won't get now
bob
<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins from coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
The buyer is in contact with the seller, and if the situation warrants, will remove the negative feedback.
Thus far, additional images have been emailed by the seller. They are of extremely poor quality, but it looks as if the coins might be counterfeit. If so, it's quite possible that the seller thinks they are genuine.
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<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins from coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
The buyer is in contact with the seller, and if the situation warrants, will remove the negative feedback.
Thus far, additional images have been emailed by the seller. They are of extremely poor quality, but it looks as if the coins might be counterfeit. If so, it's quite possible that the seller thinks they are genuine. >>
Mark, ask the "buyer" what the was purpose of the immediate negative feedback? What is just a premature knee jerk reaction to the coinfacts photo discovery or is there a logical reason for it.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
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<< <i>While the auction is suspect, the use of someone else's pictures doesn't guarantee the buyer won't get two nice coins. In many cases lazy sellers that don't know how to take coin pictures will go find one somewhere else. Happens all the time. Although ebay coin listing policy requires pics of the actual coin and no use of "stock photos" it is always in the buyer's best interest to ask seller if photos are of actual item, especially a high dollar item. Buyer may have been premature in his negative feedback, and probably because he was convinced by this thread. While we know the buyer won't receive the two coins from coinfacts, he may receive two nice coins, especially if the seller is truthfull in his quoted estimate. >>
The buyer is in contact with the seller, and if the situation warrants, will remove the negative feedback.
Thus far, additional images have been emailed by the seller. They are of extremely poor quality, but it looks as if the coins might be counterfeit. If so, it's quite possible that the seller thinks they are genuine. >>
Mark, ask the "buyer" what the was purpose of the immediate negative feedback? What is just a premature knee jerk reaction to the coinfacts photo discovery or is there a logical reason for it. >>
It was to warn others - you can decide if you think it was logical to do so or not.
The seller has indicated that he will try to get his coins certified. And if it turns out they are genuine, the buyer will remove the negative feedback.
<< <i>It was to warn others - you can decide if you think it was logical to do so or not.
The seller has indicated that he will try to get his coins certified. And if it turns out they are genuine, the buyer will remove the negative feedback. >>
Not my place to pass judgement, just trying to learn. The negs seem kinda harsh at this point in the transaction, when buyer has full buyer protection and the opportunity to neg after coins are received (or not). The negs basically freeze the seller from any further sales until transaction is completed satisfactorily. Of course this is a good motivator for the seller to provide quick satisfaction to the buyer. Maybe it was a good move on the buyer's part after all.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
That's a lot of risk to your reputation just to stop a scammer.