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keyman64
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Do people not know the difference?
A Penny is British/other countries.
The United States has "CENTS". They really are not interchangeable. Feel free to chime in and let me know if I am wrong...or to properly educate me....and possibly others. Thanks!
Greg
A Penny is British/other countries.
The United States has "CENTS". They really are not interchangeable. Feel free to chime in and let me know if I am wrong...or to properly educate me....and possibly others. Thanks!
Greg
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
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<< <i>When you were a child...did potty training go ok? >>
Odd question for a forum like this, but yes. I do not recall the process as I was much more intelligent than most and out of diapers very quickly. Thanks for asking. I hope it went well for you but due to your question I guess it did not. I'm sorry.
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet (Romeo and Juliet)...
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I don't get into purism unless there is a critical reason for it (say, the medical or engineering fields where precision is paramount).
To get into a frenzy about something like penny/cent is anal, imho, and something I will let others do but that I will continue to not care about.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I take pride in what I collect and am careful to be correct as often as possible. I am just a bit surprised there do not seem to be more people with the same thought process. When someone can be so particular about a variety that requires almost a 20x loop to notice, it surprises me that some will overlook the obvious word "CENT" on the coin.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Sometimes being correct is not always the best course. Just let it go. You're not going to change anything and most folks will think you're a smarty pants (no reference to potty training intended).
Lance.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>We've had this discussion more than once.
Sometimes being correct is not always the best course. Just let it go. You're not going to change anything and most folks will think you're a smarty pants (no reference to potty training intended).
Lance. >>
Thanks Lance. I'm new and have only been on here since May and I have never seen the topic raised so that is why I brought the topic up. I will go look for other threads. I am not sure it is something for me to "Just let go". I have no deep desire to push knowledge onto others. I will just know that I am correct and some others look ignorant. If by "Let it go", you mean not to push the issue, not bring up new threads on this topic every few months and not point out the ignorance of others consistently etc....then I do not see a real danger in that. I just figured I would bring the topic up ONCE which I believe there was no harm in doing. Maybe you can suggest I "Let it Go" if I bring the topic up more than once. Fair enough?
Sorry if this topic caused people to get their panties in a wad, cause nausea, vomiting, indigestion, etc. Some old-timers on the forums clearly have issues with certain topics and can be quite sensitive. There was no intent on my part to bother people with a topic. No more new threads for me today. Holey Cow!
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<< <i>They both circulated in america ......yes? >>
Some did. I understand that to be correct.
BUT, if a person posts saying ...check out my exciting 1825 Penny then posts a photo of a Large Cent....that is clearly slabbed by PCGS and the label from PCGS says CENT....then why, why, why would someone call it a penny? Very strange to me.
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Ignorance is bliss...
<< <i>The penny comes from English coinage and has a no rhyme or reason relationship with a pound (old English money system). >>
Actually, yes it did.
12 pence = 1 shilling
20 shillings = 1 pound
Ahhh, for the days of LSD!
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
Greg
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
a babe in the woods; fresh faced and new to the hobby: you will use the word 'cent' and 'penny' as interchangeable terms, sometimes being corrected by hobby veterans
some time under your belt: mindful of this you now only use the correct term 'cent' and even begin to correct others while trading Lincolns
more experienced: you discover the world of Large Cents and now your hobby advancement is complete (and oh yeah, it's fine to go back to calling them 'pennies' again)
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BTW, in Canada it's also a Cent.
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Don
<< <i>If a British coin is a penny, then why is it written 1d?
BTW, in Canada it's also a Cent. >>
d is the symbol used for the penny which came from pence which derived from the Latin denarius in the Middle Ages. A denarius is also known as a roman silver coin.
s is the symbol used for shilling derived from the Latin solidus in the Middle Ages.
The '£' sign developed from the 'l' for libra.
I found this web page very useful in explaining some of the origins: Link
Greg
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<< <i>i have observed the following to be the normal evolution one makes in this hobby:
a babe in the woods; fresh faced and new to the hobby: you will use the word 'cent' and 'penny' as interchangeable terms, sometimes being corrected by hobby veterans
some time under your belt: mindful of this you now only use the correct term 'cent' and even begin to correct others while trading Lincolns
more experienced: you discover the world of Large Cents and now your hobby advancement is complete (and oh yeah, it's fine to go back to calling them 'pennies' again) >>
And we come full circle. Funny with a lot of truth. Nice synopsis.
Greg
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United States money is expressed in dollars, dimes or tenths, cents or hundreths,[1] and mills or thousandths. A dime is a tenth of a dollar, a cent is a hundredth of a dollar, and a mill is a thousandth of a dollar.
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[1] So in original. Probably should be “hundredths,”.
Kinda like the difference between New-klee-ar and New-Cue-lar. Both are "acceptable" pronunciations of the word nuclear. No amount of quibbling or arguments will ever change it.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Both are "acceptable" pronunciations of the word nuclear. >>
Not in my house, they're not.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
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<< <i>Both are "acceptable" pronunciations of the word nuclear. >>
Not in my house, they're not. >>
nor mine. no extra "U" sound is written in.
The terms cent and penny have been interchangeable for the past 200 years. Correct or incorrect, it's acceptable.
Remember Penny Loafers? How about the "Penny Arcade"? Maybe "Penny Stocks"? What about "Penny Ante Poker"?
The name is LEE!
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I find myself using Penny in singular and Cents if in Multiple...
i.e.
I have one Penny...
I have eight Cents...
To each there own...
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Is there an issue with people calling five cent pieces, "nickels?" The US Mint has never produced a nickel denomination.
How about paper notes being called "currency?" All current media of exchange are currency, not just our Federal Reserve Notes.
It's sort of like in my general line of work ... people often talk about the "pills" they take even though their dosage form may be a tablet or capsule. If any of my students refer to "pills" as a general term for oral dosage forms then I correct them. With the general population it's not really relevant and guess what...they don't care. The same goes for the penny.
Enjoy the hobby and don't sweat the small stuff. Have fun and start collecting those old big pennies...oops, I mean early coppers...dang, sorry, I really meant large cents.
Lane
P.S. Good topic and keep contributing!
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Actually, yes it did.
12 pence = 1 shilling
20 shillings = 1 pound
Ahhh, for the days of LSD! >>
Consider a troy pound (weight)
20 pennyweight = 1 ounce
12 ounces = 1 pound = 240 pennyweight. Sound familier? The pound sterling was originally one pound (or 240) of silver pennies.
Note the penny is a coin and the plural is pennies.
The plural of a sum of money is pence. You could exchange 3 copper pennies for a three pence coin in the old days.
EDIT: OH my gosh. I had the numbers backwards in the weight chart. And nobody noticed, not even Lee!
<< <i><<<< The penny comes from English coinage and has a no rhyme or reason relationship with a pound (old English money system). >>
Actually, yes it did.
12 pence = 1 shilling
20 shillings = 1 pound
Ahhh, for the days of LSD! >>
Consider a troy pound (weeight)
12 pennyweight = 1 ounce
20 ounces = 1 pound = 240 pennyweight. Sound familier? The pound sterling was originally one pound (or 240) of silver pennies.
Note the penny is a coin and the plural is pennies.
The plural of a sum of money is pence. You could exchange 3 copper pennies for a three pence coin in the old days. >>
My God Herb! You're older than I thought!
The name is LEE!
And it used to take 4 of those large half dollar size pennies to make a pay phone call in London. You might need a large lorry to collect all that change.
Sometimes being correct is not always the best course. Just let it go. You're not going to change anything and most folks will think you're a smarty pants (no reference to potty training intended).
Lance. >>
Thanks Lance. I'm new and have only been on here since May and I have never seen the topic raised so that is why I brought the topic up. I will go look for other threads. I am not sure it is something for me to "Just let go". I have no deep desire to push knowledge onto others. I will just know that I am correct and some others look ignorant. If by "Let it go", you mean not to push the issue, not bring up new threads on this topic every few months and not point out the ignorance of others consistently etc....then I do not see a real danger in that. I just figured I would bring the topic up ONCE which I believe there was no harm in doing. Maybe you can suggest I "Let it Go" if I bring the topic up more than once. Fair enough?
Sorry if this topic caused people to get their panties in a wad, cause nausea, vomiting, indigestion, etc. Some old-timers on the forums clearly have issues with certain topics and can be quite sensitive. There was no intent on my part to bother people with a topic. No more new threads for me today. Holey Cow! >>
The purpose of language is to communicate. If I say I found a wheat penny in some change today, you would understand what I am saying. So I have communicated effectively. Language is fluid and is always changing, there is no right or wrong as long as the communication is understood.